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    Yeah, just many people who don't know what they are talking about confusing WHOIS vs a trace route. I'll try to explain it in simple terms.

    WHOIS is like the internet phonebook "white pages". Like when you buy a .com name, you have the choice to publish who administers and pays for that domain. The address information is published for anyone to see. This has no bearing where the server(s) for that domain lives. You can protect your assets by just putting a corporate address of your company as the white listing. But your server might actually be in another country.

    Traceroute is basically sending a heartbeat from your PC and internet connection to see the actual pipelines it has to go through to get the end connection. This method reports every pipeline hop you have to go through including the end of the tunnel. This is how you actually discover the server(s) you end at because internet backbones and data centers generally use some city codes as part of their pipeline addresses because they have a lot of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
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    So basically we aren't certain they are in California than?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mixae View Post
    So basically we aren't certain they are in California than?
    Trace route of the Aether and Primal DNS now point to what looks like one of NTT's Sacramento Data Centers, as said many times here. It's very likely the game servers themselves are here in the same subnet too, because it's almost silly to have a lobby server somewhere else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mixae View Post
    So basically we aren't certain they are in California than?
    Cali was revealed by using tracerouting which ends in Sacramento (Code scrmca). So as Tech explained tracerouting in a neat way, you can be sure it'S somewhere at the west coast now.
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    Cross posting here- originally posted this on Reddit and XIV Data Center Relocation thread.

    Based on the traceroutes- and this information I posted LAST WEEK. Sacramento is pretty strong for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by NarikoStar View Post
    I posted this over on the FFXIV Reddit Thread but thought I'd cross post it here-

    PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THIS IS SPECULATION BASED. Obviously, let's wait and see if they actually end up but the images I think point to some strong evidence at least its working with this company.

    In regards to the servers potentially taking a West Coats base... I find it likely based off the photos we were given.

    I'll reference the comments made the in the Reddit post link above but a user pointed out that Nippon Telegraph and Telephone fully acquired RagingWire Data Centers Inc earlier this year. (confirmed here) As the reddit poster points out, NTT is a company that Square has partnered with in the past~ Initially also pointing out that the color scheme for RagingWire's data centers uses a very similar color scheme to the pictures we've been shown by Yoshi P.
    From Raging Wires website:


    After taking a look at it myself, went to research a bit deeper into the company and its facilities.

    These are pictures referenced from the Sacramento Raging Wire base. After looking through their website page for Sacramento AND their California Data Center Tour. I believe the pictures they posted on the FFXIV Official Forums were taken from the Sacramento base.
    CA01 comparisons:

    CA02 comparisons:


    Now... to be honest this move seems quite scary for most East Coasters. I would have hoped evidence pointed to a much more centralized data center...
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    Raging Wire DID open a Texas Center at the end of April....
    There's always a possibility they'll be located at this base... but the pictures we get that aren't a virtual tour are from their Ribbon Cutting Video at 0:50secs...but none of these pictures from the video look anything like the pictures we were shown by Yoshi P.

    I did a bit more searching hoping MAYBE something could link us to the Texas base but the only remotely close thing I can find comes from a twitter post via Raging Wire which the floor plan and light plan look very similar to the ones we see in Sacramento's base and the pictures Yoshi P gave us- so I guess there could still be hope for this...
    Tweet:

    So again... a few things in this whole data center moving fiasco. We still have not been given a location. I'd say this is normal, except when EU servers were moved a local IP was given for Frankfurt for players to pre-test ping. My initial thoughts was this was not given to us to avoid a PR shitstorm if the servers do indeed move West Coast.
    But- after researching company maybe it was simply not announced because the Data Center in Texas had not opened yet? It's very possible. I still can't snag the TX01 IP route but I can easily check ping with the companies Sacramento and Virginia bases. So that's always a possibility... but then again the whole reason this internet detective work was found was via a reddit user who stated a friend working at the data center in Sacramento got wind of it.

    So who knows... I'm pretty positive the pictures Yoshi P gave us were from the Sacramento base... but it's always possible the company gave stock photos of a different base just because the base we intend to go to was not open at the time...

    Fingers crossed we'll see central! I play West Coast and have average pings of 104-115 currently. It's not bad... do I savage raiding and pvp still. But I can understand why this would be really frustrating for those who currently play with sub 50 ping may see a 50+ increase.

    From Cali- I ping aproximatly 32-40 to Raging Wire's Sacramento base, and while I can't snag the exact IP of TX01, other data centers located in Dallas I average approximately 54-60ish ping.

    I mean.... we're getting lobby traces which match to Raging Wire's Sacramento CA02 Base.... exact place I suspected based off the photos we were getting. >___> Feel free to wait for servers up for final confirmation but I think the nails really in the coffin at this point.
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    Last edited by NarikoStar; 05-17-2017 at 03:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NarikoStar View Post
    Based on the traceroutes- and this information I posted LAST WEEK. Sacramento is pretty strong for me.
    Yep, very likely it is this one: http://www.ragingwire.com/wholesale/...california-ca2
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    I did notice the trace went to Sacramento and it's hitting NTT which is a Japanese communications company. Also, SE's North American office is on the West Coast.
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  8. 05-17-2017 03:37 AM
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    Gonna wait until the servers are online before commenting

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    If the EU Server Where always there I would ne with all the people who say "fuck EUs".
    But EU Servers Where announced way After release of Housing. And by transfering Servers you loose that House. So yeah. Until they allow You to Transfer with your House Transfering is no option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    If the EU Server Where always there I would ne with all the people who say "fuck EUs".
    But EU Servers Where announced way After release of Housing. And by transfering Servers you loose that House. So yeah. Until they allow You to Transfer with your House Transfering is no option.
    they would have to switch to an instanced housing model. somebody already owns your plot on the other servers in most cases.
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