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  1. #21
    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    i dunno, ive been playing since beta 1.0 and im pretty happy with the game.
    Here since phase 3 beta for AFF and very happy with the game...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    i dunno, ive been playing since beta 1.0 and im pretty happy with the game. I see more XI vets complaining the game isnt XI enough for them.
    Ha! I've been here since 1.0 beta, and I've been playing FFXI since PS2 release (i.e., CoP), and I'm perfectly happy with XIV as-is. Remember, all generalizations are false!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talraen View Post
    Ha! I've been here since 1.0 beta, and I've been playing FFXI since PS2 release (i.e., CoP), and I'm perfectly happy with XIV as-is. Remember, all generalizations are false!
    I didnt say ALL XI vets complained, i just said more than those who have been playing XIV for an extended time period.
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    Voted. I'm happy with the game but welcome changes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I didnt say ALL XI vets complained, i just said more than those who have been playing XIV for an extended time period.
    Oh I know, I just thought it was funny how each person added another caveat to the original generalization. Heck, I was going to do one myself - I think people who did endgame in XI are the main ones complaining - until I realized it would be more of the same.

    I don't know who is or is not happy with the game, but I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who is!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    i dunno, ive been playing since beta 1.0 and im pretty happy with the game. I see more XI vets complaining the game isnt XI enough for them.
    I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for data for determination of correlation rather than just see personal anecdotes which will exist for both viewpoints and really don't contribute much of anything in regards to the trend of data.
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  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    If you are happy with it as it is, but you would welcome complete change in the game, how are you really happy with it as it is?
    I agree with you but I think most of us who are picking that choice are not picking it too literally.

    Also you can make a fundamental change without changing the game completely. What they are doing with subskills is a fundamental change. having Normal and Savage for Alexander was a fundamental change to Raiding.

    I would really like to see a fundamental change to substats and itemization in general. That doesn't mean they have to get rid of Tomes, Roulettes, Trials or Raids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NovaLevossida View Post
    I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for data for determination of correlation rather than just see personal anecdotes which will exist for both viewpoints and really don't contribute much of anything in regards to the trend of data.
    OK... where's yours?

    Quote Originally Posted by NovaLevossida View Post
    I think going forward if you make a poll such as this, you should include a question asking how long the person has played for. There's probably a very real correlation between how long a person has played for and how bored they've gotten of the status quo formula while newer players are likely to be more satisfied because it's still mostly fresh to them.
    Like I realize you asked for the data, but you assumed the answer as much as anyone else here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talraen View Post
    OK... where's yours?
    Where's my what? Data? No one has that. That's why I requested it. Anecdote? I already stated that.

    Like I realize you asked for the data, but you assumed the answer as much as anyone else here.
    I only went so far as to assume a correlation (that's a hypothesis), said that it would be nice if we had data (test the hypothesis), but did not go so far as to make a conclusion. I don't see the big deal here.
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    The funny thing here is that even despite all the posts saying people aren't happy, this is a terrible place to try to objectively carry out this kind of poll. Wonder how bad it'd be if you included everyone with or who recently had a subscription.
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