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    Not particularly happy, and SB I am anticipating won't change that. It's looking to be the same as HW for me, a 1 month expansion, with a 1-2 month catch up before the next. Honestly this dev team should look at what the XI team did for expansions to see how you can be creative with new content and not just make the n-th reiteration of the same formula.
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    I think it's interesting to see the votes so far, i made this thread on reddit as well.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...state_of_ffxiv
    The response on reddit seems to be a lot more positive and people seem content there. :P
    While people seem more dissatisfied on the official forums.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kaonis View Post
    Honestly this dev team should look at what the XI team did for expansions to see how you can be creative with new content and not just make the n-th reiteration of the same formula.
    While FFXI is my favorite MMO to be honest, looking at the results so far it seems about 75-80% are happy with the current state of the game.
    Of which 1/3 of the happy players (25% of total) does not want changes,
    while 2/3 of the happy players (52% of total) would welcome bigger changes.
    And pretty much 4/5 of the unhappy players (18% of total) sticks around because, while they're not happy as it is, they still think this is the best MMO available or have hope for 4.0

    So i'd say SE is doing everything right so far, sticking to their formula and just occasionally testing the waters with trying new content here and there.
    The number of Happy players that do not want changes is bigger than the number of unhappy players waiting for changes.
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    This straw poll won't measure real sentiment cuz the people who completely dislike it over all this time already quit and they won't be measured cuz they can't vote cuz they don't care anymore. Obviously people here still like the game to some measure of extent.
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    I have a question for the poll creator.

    Your two affirmative choices are not in any way similar. the 1st choice is a straight yes, and the second is a Yes, but change everything. If you are happy with it as it is, but you would welcome complete change in the game, how are you really happy with it as it is? It's a false poll option because welcoming fundamental change is akin to saying, no, I'm not happy, I want change.

    I think you should close the poll, and reopen it with;
    1. Yes, completely happy.
    2. Yes, happy, but some changes would increase my enjoyment.
    3. I don't know, changes might help me like it.
    4. No, but it's better than other MMORPGs, fundamental change might help me.
    5. No, I am completely unhappy with the game for reasons posted, no change can save it for me

    The trouble for me with this poll is that you go from yes happy, to yes happy but change everything. You need to have a "yes, happy but some change might help improve things" options because right now you present a binary choice between no change and fundamental change. That's a false choice - IMHO, something pollsters have to be wary of offering lest it skew results.
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    I have to agree with kos mos. fundamental changes are something I would want, that doesn't mean im satisfied with them doing the same thing as before. Heavensward's endgame in particular left a lot to be desired.
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    I am happy with everything except minor issues like ugly characters (e.g. Ishgard peasants)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Critical-Limit View Post
    This straw poll won't measure real sentiment cuz the people who completely dislike it over all this time already quit and they won't be measured cuz they can't vote cuz they don't care anymore. Obviously people here still like the game to some measure of extent.
    I dunno, I see more people on the forums complaining about how BAD the game is than people praising it, so I get the feeling it will be skewed the other way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    I have a question for the poll creator.

    Your two affirmative choices are not in any way similar. the 1st choice is a straight yes, and the second is a Yes, but change everything. If you are happy with it as it is, but you would welcome complete change in the game, how are you really happy with it as it is? It's a false poll option because welcoming fundamental change is akin to saying, no, I'm not happy, I want change.

    I think you should close the poll, and reopen it with;
    1. Yes, completely happy.
    2. Yes, happy, but some changes would increase my enjoyment.
    3. I don't know, changes might help me like it.
    4. No, but it's better than other MMORPGs, fundamental change might help me.
    5. No, I am completely unhappy with the game for reasons posted, no change can save it for me

    The trouble for me with this poll is that you go from yes happy, to yes happy but change everything. You need to have a "yes, happy but some change might help improve things" options because right now you present a binary choice between no change and fundamental change. That's a false choice - IMHO, something pollsters have to be wary of offering lest it skew results.
    I'm sorry you're not happy with the poll. I'm usually rather quiet and don't do things like these, so i lack experience in them.
    Shall i ever do another one, i'll be sure to make fundamental changes to them.

    My thought process when creating this poll was,
    People are either happy or not with FFXIV as it is as of now.
    And they either want bigger changes or not.
    And people that are unhappy and have no hope for 4.0 to bring about the change they seek are most likely already gone anyway, as Critical-Limit pointed out.

    I thought it would be better to keep it rough and simple.
    As the more choices there are, the more intimidating the poll seems to players probably, and the less likely they are to participate.
    And you could go down that route and make the poll even more detailed, as everyone most likely desires different changes.

    I'd rather not remake the poll either, as i don't wanna bug people to do another one, i think that would be an annoyance to most people.
    But if you'd like to do it, i'd welcome you to re-do the poll the way you think it should have been.
    Or maybe someone can do a follow-up poll that is a bit more detailed, asking what changes people would like, or what part they are dissatisfied/satisfied with.


    Quote Originally Posted by Critical-Limit View Post
    This straw poll won't measure real sentiment cuz the people who completely dislike it over all this time already quit and they won't be measured cuz they can't vote cuz they don't care anymore. Obviously people here still like the game to some measure of extent.
    And i would love to get their opinions too, but i'm afraid i can't think of a way to get them.
    Maybe even a number of how many people dropt the game during each patch without returning would do.
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    Last edited by ShinMetsu; 05-06-2017 at 01:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShinMetsu View Post
    I think it's interesting to see the votes so far, i made this thread on reddit as well.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...state_of_ffxiv
    The response on reddit seems to be a lot more positive and people seem content there. :P
    While people seem more dissatisfied on the official forums.
    I think going forward if you make a poll such as this, you should include a question asking how long the person has played for. There's probably a very real correlation between how long a person has played for and how bored they've gotten of the status quo formula while newer players are likely to be more satisfied because it's still mostly fresh to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NovaLevossida View Post
    I think going forward if you make a poll such as this, you should include a question asking how long the person has played for. There's probably a very real correlation between how long a person has played for and how bored they've gotten of the status quo formula while newer players are likely to be more satisfied because it's still mostly fresh to them.
    i dunno, ive been playing since beta 1.0 and im pretty happy with the game. I see more XI vets complaining the game isnt XI enough for them.
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