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    Ransom's Avatar
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    Raine Storme
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    20? Lol... I had to run Dun Scaith 70 times to get BRD pants. Seventy times during which, prior to the pair I did get, I only saw one drop. (And that one drop was on my 2nd run, patch day, and lost the lot 97 to a 98, which is no doubt why I was so torqued.) In any case, I don't think rng should be gotten rid of completely, but I DO think it should be constrained somehow. For example, imagine this system:

    1: All gear drops could be purchased with Dun Scaith tokens: Say, 30 each for head, arms, feet, 50 each for body, legs.
    2: Only one token purchase per week.
    3: This weekly limit would be shared with the weekly drop/loot limit.
    4: Each time you clear and do not win a single lot, you get one token.
    5: If you do win a lot, ALL of your saved tokens vanish.

    See, this way, most of the gear still comes from lotting, while those of us with really crappy luck are still guaranteed of eventually getting what we're after, even if it takes forever.
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    kattzkitti's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Mako Hext
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    In any case, I don't think rng should be gotten rid of completely, but I DO think it should be constrained somehow. For example, imagine this system:

    1: All gear drops could be purchased with Dun Scaith tokens: Say, 30 each for head, arms, feet, 50 each for body, legs.
    2: Only one token purchase per week.
    3: This weekly limit would be shared with the weekly drop/loot limit.
    4: Each time you clear and do not win a single lot, you get one token.
    5: If you do win a lot, ALL of your saved tokens vanish.

    See, this way, most of the gear still comes from lotting, while those of us with really crappy luck are still guaranteed of eventually getting what we're after, even if it takes forever.
    This is an example of the kind of system that needs to be in place (although I personally wouldn't have the tokens vanish, that's a bit overkill).
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    Last edited by kattzkitti; 04-16-2017 at 12:40 PM. Reason: Character limit bypass.

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    Awful's Avatar
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    Awful Name
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
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    I don't want to run this place 30-50 times for tokens that will vanish when you get an item, assume you ran it 29 times for 49 times and then that run you get an item all those tokens are gone. I don't get why people want tokens especially these pseudo tokens that are gone once you get an item, what's the point? I might as well run it 50+ times anyways to get something, the loot system in 24 mans are really terrible and I hope SE learns their lesson with LotA/ST/WoD/, and the HW raids for Return to Ivalice.

    I personally don't think tokens are the answer if they do add them just make it 10 we're at the end of the expansion with a plethora of ways to get gear not just Dun Scaith but Scrip, crafting, Savage raiding. Having to farm all these tokens and having them vanish just seems like padding to an expansion that we're already waiting for that's going to make this gear we get obsolete anyways.
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