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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    Honestly, RNG is shit and at the very best feeds a gambling addiction that shouldn't be supported in the first place. It doesn't make people run content considerably more often on average, it only cross-subsidizes the instant gratification of the lucky at the cost of the unlucky and completely screws up any effort to reward ratio, thereby devaluing effort as such.

    It's a relic from the time when developers didn't know better and should die the death it deserves. Seriously, fuck that design PoS.
    This very forum speaks to the contrary. People have frequently voiced annoyance over running Weeping or Scaith 20+ times for their drop. Games like Overwatch and Mass Effect base their entire multiple component on RNG loot boxes where you either grind endlessly and hope you get what you're looking for or you use real money for more boxes. It may not be a system people like, but it has been proven effective.
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    Yuji Kiritani
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    This very forum speaks to the contrary. People have frequently voiced annoyance over running Weeping or Scaith 20+ times for their drop. Games like Overwatch and Mass Effect base their entire multiple component on RNG loot boxes where you either grind endlessly and hope you get what you're looking for or you use real money for more boxes. It may not be a system people like, but it has been proven effective.
    Using Overwatch as an example, the grind is at least better streamlined. Getting duplicates of items from lootboxes yields you credits. With enough credits, you are eventually able to buy what you actually want. (Aside from past event items, of course.) In this sense, it gives an alternative into getting what you'd like. (You also have the option to BUY lootboxes, but that's a different matter altogether.)

    With Dun Scaith or any other dungeons with gear you want from them, you're left with no choice but keep running the content over and over again. Take for example the Wrangler's Jacket from Sohr Kai/Hullbreaker HM. I lost count after I ran it fifteen times. I think it's a bit unacceptable to run one thing that many times just for something I want. I can deal with doing it ten times. (Which is the number you need to do any HW EX trial if the weapon you want doesn't drop.)

    Constantly bad RNG is a thing, and I wish there was a countermeasure against that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centershock View Post
    Using Overwatch as an example, the grind is at least better streamlined. Getting duplicates of items from lootboxes yields you credits. With enough credits, you are eventually able to buy what you actually want. (Aside from past event items, of course.) In this sense, it gives an alternative into getting what you'd like.
    What you failed to mention, was the fact that the credits you get, isn't even a drop in a piggy bank, and you don't always get credits with every box. Since we are ignoring buying the boxes, that means if you want to get your legendary skin(who doesn't?) you have to do all the dailies and weeklies and all that jive, AND level up. Now, this was me buying the boxes, but I went through something like...30-something boxes before I finally GOT my skin. I still did not have the credits to buy it. So, if we want to use that as an example, you would be playing the game WAY LONGER than those dungeons you referenced. Now, mentioning if it's more fun or whatnot, is just preference, has no baring on the topic of RNG.
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