Connecting the DoTs: A Summoner Guide

[Jetto]

Posted this on a thread but thouht I would getter better responses here

SO it seems like everything revolves around trance


IM assuming this is my priority/rotation on 1 target bosses/villains
i ll leave out eye for eye, contagion and virus



Apply dots
pop aetherflow
Fester
then I want to get to trance ( I dont know what to spam to have it stack to 3 stacks)

once trance is available

spam ruin III until dots are all gone, rinse repeat.



is that pretty much it?

[Vulcwen]

is that pretty much it?

At level 60 ofc, giving the basis ideas of playing SMN, also not providing an opener, as those are most discussed anyway:

Outside dreadwyrm trance (aka DWT) , assuming you don't need to move:
Do aethertrail management
Keep up DoTs, don't clip.
Use ruin 3 if high on MP
Use ruin 3 if medium on MP and buffed by things like balance, raging strikes etc.
Use ruin 1 otherwise.

Every time you use an ability that uses aetherflow (if it has effect), you get an aethertrail stack. If you have 3 aethertrail you can go in DWT.
In DWT, basic version:
DWT -> Tri-disaster -> Ruin 3 x5 -> Deathflare (meanwhile, spam contagion)
You might also want to squeeze in 1 or 2 festers.
Aethertrail (which fester gives), lasts 30s, so you need to keep it up 'till the next time you can go in DWT.
Generally you align DWT with when you can use tri-disaster with contagion. Aetherflow is also used around that time, but can be offset by some seconds.

[Jetto]

thanks.


my question is whats the best way to proc 3 stacks? fester, drain and what else? I hate to use bane on a solo boss, waste of dps move right?

[Silverquick]

thanks.


my question is whats the best way to proc 3 stacks? fester, drain and what else? I hate to use bane on a solo boss, waste of dps move right?

Well usually when I want to set it off I'm not in a big hurry with a Single Target Mob... there's plenty of Single Target damagers who are faster at it...

BUT... if I really need to on a single target... then its usually Tri-Disaster+Fester+Painflare+LifeSteal... to kick in DWT. It may not be efficient, but it will get you there... usually though I take my time with it and just Fester 3 times until it comes up to kick in DWT... and then Ruin III spam until its time for the Big Deathflare.

Usually though... its multiple targets in AoE situations I need it for.

There I'm going Tri-Disaster (or standard Bio, Miasma, Bio2), hit Contagion... then while waiting for that to kick in.... hit Painflare then... check to see if Contagion has gone off... if it has... then Bane... then another Painflare....

The real kicker is what comes next.. that's where I hit the... what to do next question... Spaming a bunch of Rune III's before using Deathflare is kind of pointless when you're looking at a good 6-10 mob spread. So sometimes I'll just forgo all that and hit Deathflare right away... and then use Rune IIIs on whatever is left.

I mean I could step in and spam Bliz II in the 16 seconds before DWT ends... but that's generally doing about 300-350 damage per target on all mobs... but you know six of one half dozen of another.

[Neela]

thanks.


my question is whats the best way to proc 3 stacks? fester, drain and what else? I hate to use bane on a solo boss, waste of dps move right?

Heya Jetto

I gave you a small prio-system summary in your own topic.

Haven't gave you detailed rota yet because in my opinion
you first should get used to the basics of the cls-changes
with HW instead of being a mimic without understanding at all.

Don't be shy to ask if something is unclear to you


so long
Yuni ^^

[TristanBlane]

Hi~

I am an aspiring Summoner! I have a few questions concerning optimizing my DPS as a summoner. I play on PS4 and I'm worried that playing with a controller will get in the way of performing to the best of my abilities as a Summoner, are there any Summoner players who use controller that find they can do fine?

Also, I'm confused about the auto attack? Are you saying I should stand close range? I always just stayed really far and spammed Ruin II lol

My next question, should I be using Ruin I instead of Ruin II? , when not using Ruin III of course.

[Neela]

Also, I'm confused about the auto attack? Are you saying I should stand close range? I always just stayed really far and spammed Ruin II lol
My next question, should I be using Ruin I instead of Ruin II? , when not using Ruin III of course.

well in perfect conditions you should stay close to get that little auto-atk book-smash dps boost it's although the only chance to put up mia2 as well. in most of the endgame-content bosses, savage or ex-primals are grp-stacking mechanics, where you have to stand next to the boss at general. for casual dngs-runs like dailys etc, I won't consider auto-atks or melee range at all, mob fights are faster done than you are able to get your position right.

for the ruin question... it's more or less situational ruin l comes with a casttime but costs less mp, ruin ll is instant and costs a bit more mp. actually ruin ll is your go to (filler-) skill if you have to move of what ever reasons. if you proceed further in endgame and get used to all of your skills - ruin (l&ll) will become your filler-skills in parts of your rota, when other skills are on cd (or critical mp-pool for ruin lll) - that being said both of them shouldn't be used that much at all. ^^

but to be honest most of the smn use ruin ll the way u seem to use it now - standing away spamming it as one of their "main-dmg-skills" for what ever reason... most probably of laziness or I don't know... ^^'

[ShaolinMike]

I play on PS4 and I'm worried that playing with a controller will get in the way of performing to the best of my abilities.

I'm confused about the auto attack? Are you saying I should stand close range?

My next question, should I be using Ruin I instead of Ruin II? , when not using Ruin III of course.

I also play SMN on PS4. They did a very good job of designing the game to be played on a controller, and there's not much that you can do on a keyboard/mouse that you can't do on a controller, if anything. It's really personal preference.

If you're able to stand close to the boss and not get yourself killed, it's fine to get those book smacks in for a little extra DPS.

ALWAYS use Ruin III while you're in Dreadwyrm Trance. While not in DWT but with high MP, you can use Ruin III for more DPS. Use Ruin I for spamming and/or MP conservation. Use Ruin II when you want to weave in some oGCD abilities or want to apply the blind debuff.

[Havenchild]

Hello again all. Been away for quite some time but glad to see summoners still hard at work at keeping the craft alive. I will begin updating this thread again with the 4.0 changes as I get a chance.

All information will be updated as such as well as different changes coming in 4.0 will be documented.

[Neela]

Welcome back :3

The next weeks are going to be a huge fun nice to have you on board <3