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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkune View Post
    Again, also Raiders want Gear Progression thats why Ilevel worthing so much in todays MMORPGs. It is also not healthy for the Game to Keep Raiders on the tight leash in a way of Gear Progression, which this game does.
    In my opinion Raiders are allowed to be "entitled gits" (taking your wording here), if its healthy for the community or not is another Story.

    It is by far not "GOOD" to drive away the Raidersgroup from this Game because we have to Focus on the non-raiders here. If SE thinks that Cosmetics/Mounts and Titels are enough to Keep the Raiding Players in this Game then SE will be totally wrong on the Long road. Do i Need to mention the Ilevel 280 Diadem Weapons threads here?

    At the end, its in SEs Hand to decide how to Build their Game.

    While i get some of your Points, you basicly not seems to see my Points or want it to understand my Point of view. Thats why this discussion Ends for me here.
    Encouraging people to be "entitled gits" is never good for the game. And raiders aren't the only ones who want gear progression. That's kinda what I have been saying. EVERYONE wants gear progression... but not everyone wants to raid. Having ALTERNATIVE ways to get similar gear progression is GOOD for the game. Keeping gear progression locked behind only one type of content is definitively NOT GOOD for the game.

    That's why FFXIV does as well as it does. Those who don't wish to engage in raid content can still progress their gear nearly as high as those that do raid. And its a fact that non-raiders outnumber raiders by far. I get your point of view... but its a "selfish" point of view. I say selfish because it comes from the perspective of a single segment of players (raiders) who want exclusivity. They don't want anyone who doesn't do what they do to have anywhere near the player power/gear progression they do. And that's just not healthy for the game overall because as I said in multiple posts, raider or not, EVERYONE is motivated by gear progression. That's why the small gear gap we currently have in FFXIV is a good thing. Fostering a sense of second-class citizenry does NOTHING GOOD for the game. Treating the vast majority of the player base (non-raiders) as "less than" just to make a much smaller number of players feel better about themselves is not only bad for the game, its stupid.

    No one is "driving raiders from the game". Outside of being close to a new xpac and people taking breaks, I don't see raiders leaving in droves due to how gearing works in FFXIV. They have a small ilvl edge, unique glamours, unique mounts, unique titles, and bragging rights in regards to clearing the hard content. They are adequately rewarded already. I don't agree that engaging in difficult content is a free pass to being an entitled git and it certainly is NOT HEALTHY for the game in any case. I am curious though, why you think its not healthy to keep raiders "on a tight leash" as far as gear progression goes? That leash applies to pretty much everyone, not just raiders. Again, EVERYONE wants gear progression, not just raiders, and again it comes down to raiders feeling like they deserve oh so much more than they get even though they already DO get more than everyone else already.

    If you've got an 8 inch dick and the other guy has a 7.8 inch dick, you're already bigger than the other guy. So why do you feel like you need a 9 inch dick?
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    Last edited by Nicodemus_Mercy; 04-09-2017 at 09:53 PM.
    How many men am I involved with? Well that depends... do you mean men as in males? Or just midlanders?