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    Quote Originally Posted by DamianFatale View Post
    It absolutely sickens me that people encourage discourteous behavior.
    You're right, I too am sickened by the amount of people encouraging others to expect a free ride to rewards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Settiesama View Post
    You're right, I too am sickened by the amount of people encouraging others to expect a free ride to rewards.
    Can you please stop characterizing someone who sees an alert for a boss and goes to help kill it as "expecting a free ride"? It's unnecessarily antagonistic, especially when helping to kill the boss by definition is contributing to the effort of obtaining rewards. This is a video game - not some high-stakes political debate about the nature of society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    Can you please stop characterizing someone who sees an alert for a boss and goes to help kill it as "expecting a free ride"? It's unnecessarily antagonistic, especially when helping to kill the boss by definition is contributing to the effort of obtaining rewards. This is a video game - not some high-stakes political debate about the nature of society.
    If they weren't in the zone, they weren't hunting. The group that gathered first could easily kill the Hunts, they were never hard enough to need more than 8 people. That is expecting a free ride because they didn't work on getting the Hunt in the first place, they were not hunting. They antagonise themselves by shouting with mockery and insults. The ones that accept they didn't get it, and go back to whatever they were doing before, good on them for understanding, but those who have to try and put shame on the group killing the Hunt, I will not back down my stance on, and those who are trying to encourage it are just as bad.

    I've tried the waiting game, and no matter how long I waited, I was still a villain to those people who wanted to join in from other zones. As I said before, as the finders of the Hunt/the pullers, you can't win, you're a bad person no matter what you do according to those who can't even be bothered to join in the actual hunting session.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Settiesama View Post
    As I said before, as the finders of the Hunt/the pullers, you can't win, you're a bad person no matter what you do according to those who can't even be bothered to join in the actual hunting session.
    I've also stated that my experience has been exactly the opposite of yours. There is no need to demonize people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naunet View Post
    I've also stated that my experience has been exactly the opposite of yours. There is no need to demonize people.
    Then clearly they're not demonizing the people you are talking about. They're talking about a different set of people. And yes, there are plenty of people who are like that. It gets far worse when hunts are popular content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Settiesama View Post
    If they weren't in the zone, they weren't hunting. The group that gathered first could easily kill the Hunts, they were never hard enough to need more than 8 people. That is expecting a free ride because they didn't work on getting the Hunt in the first place, they were not hunting. They antagonise themselves by shouting with mockery and insults. The ones that accept they didn't get it, and go back to whatever they were doing before, good on them for understanding, but those who have to try and put shame on the group killing the Hunt, I will not back down my stance on, and those who are trying to encourage it are just as bad.

    I've tried the waiting game, and no matter how long I waited, I was still a villain to those people who wanted to join in from other zones. As I said before, as the finders of the Hunt/the pullers, you can't win, you're a bad person no matter what you do according to those who can't even be bothered to join in the actual hunting session.
    Are you a total rookie? It's very normal for people in scouting parties to split up and take different zones because a full party in a single zone is generally a waste. To claim that if they weren't in the zone, they weren't hunting is utterly laughable and reflects a total lack of even the most basic hunt knowledge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    Are you a total rookie? It's very normal for people in scouting parties to split up and take different zones because a full party in a single zone is generally a waste. To claim that if they weren't in the zone, they weren't hunting is utterly laughable and reflects a total lack of even the most basic hunt knowledge.
    Next you're gonna say people who're actively hunting won't have any idea what and when things will spawn or are spawnable. You may of missed my earlier posts speaking of spreading out to find hunts also, and that it's people who expect you to wait even longer than gathering up your own party that is the problem I'm speaking of.

    Edit: As for other people who're hunting in other zones, sucks for them at the time of it. If they still can't get there in time, then I'd expect the same thing if they found one before we got there, tough luck on my group, we don't care though, there are more out there. As hunters, you learn when things died, and when things will be open to spawn again to make sure you're in the certain areas at the right time, hell, fairly sure there are timer websites for it too.
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    Last edited by Settiesama; 04-07-2017 at 10:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Settiesama View Post
    fairly sure there are timer websites for it too.
    Why do I get the feeling you're out there sniping stuff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    Why do I get the feeling you're out there sniping stuff?
    Why do I get the feeling you're the type who assumes everyone who pulls when they have the ability to kill are grievers instead of just trying not to waste time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Settiesama View Post
    I've tried the waiting game, and no matter how long I waited, I was still a villain to those people who wanted to join in from other zones. As I said before, as the finders of the Hunt/the pullers, you can't win, you're a bad person no matter what you do according to those who can't even be bothered to join in the actual hunting session.
    That goes in line with something I've seen a few times. If you announce a hunt, its like you're flagged as an official raid leader or something. Combine that with a large amount of people in an area. Eventually someones going to get bored and attack. It may not be you or even someone in your group. Once someone attacks it, its always going to start off a chain reaction of everyone else there attacking it until it melts. You might not be responsible. Heck, you might not even had the time to get a single spell or attack off before its dead and get nothing to show for it. But since you announced the hunt target, all hundred or so odd eyes are going to be looking at you to blame.
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    Last edited by Aylis; 04-07-2017 at 10:26 AM. Reason: char limit

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