The end of Playstation 3 support.

[Kosmos992k]

PC is objectively the superior gaming platform.

Not really.

The superior gaming platform is the one that has the games that you want and the control system you prefer. For some that's a PC, for others it's a console, and still others a hand held or mobile device.

[Adire]

Not really.

The superior gaming platform is the one that has the games that you want and the control system you prefer. For some that's a PC, for others it's a console, and still others a hand held or mobile device.

That's arguably superior marketing. Saying a console is a better platform because it has exclusives is just absurd. Consoles do have a better corporate money making scheme behind them though, I will agree there. And controllers can be used on PC so that point is irrelevant.

Can a console have its hardware swapped out and updated? No, not without using workarounds that jeopardize stability. Can a brand new console surpass or even match the graphics and features of a brand new PC built at the same time? If the game has decent optimization on both, nope. In most cases, a decent PC will have superior performance to new consoles for at least 1 generation actually.

[Lexia]

Can a console have its hardware swapped out and updated? No, not without using workarounds that jeopardize stability. Can a brand new console surpass or even match the graphics and features of a brand new PC built at the same time? If the game has decent optimization on both, nope.

Usually the average consumer not going to have built their own PC or have little knowledge about how to update if there were able. Which XIV seems to have as targeted market, the average consumer.

[Kosmos992k]

That's arguably superior marketing. Saying a console is a better platform because it has exclusives is just absurd. Consoles do have a better corporate money making scheme behind them though, I will agree there. And controllers can be used on PC so that point is irrelevant.

That's not what I said, and not quite what I mean. There are many games that will not appear on PC, but do appear on multiple consoles. Generally AAA titles appear on both types of platform, but there are a lot of games that do not, and will not appear on PC but are on console, or are on PC and will never be on console. Yes, controllers work on PCs, that's not at issue, though Windows has never liked my handy dandy DS4 controller particularly well...

Can a console have its hardware swapped out and updated? No, not without using workarounds that jeopardize stability.

Yes, I can replace the HDD with an SSD, and even add an external HDD now. I can upgrade to motion controls and VR if I want, and now I can upgrade to a better GPU/CPU without changing my games or peripherals. I get your point about modular PC design, but objectively speaking, the only thing you're really talking about there is replacing the GPU.

Can a brand new console surpass or even match the graphics and features of a brand new PC built at the same time? If the game has decent optimization on both, nope.

There are a lot of qualifiers in that statement. If you take it back to the technology, there is a fair argument for the CellBE being considerably more powerful than x86 designs of the time. But the point is that when comparing any closed box solution to a bespoke solution, the bespoke solution always has the advantage of cherry picking the latest stuff on the market. On the other hand, average gamers with average wallets don't cherry pick in that manner.

If you're gaming on a 1080 60Hz screen, why do you need the latest and greatest gaming rig? Instead of spending the money on hardware, spend it on games.

Well I do agree with this, my PC from 2009 can run XIV better then a PS3 can.

PS3 released in 2006....

[Lexia]

PS3 released in 2006....

XIV on PS3 wasn't released until 2013 though. So I'm sure SE knew of the shortcoming it would have and made it anyways. So from consumer standpoint doesn't matter when the system came out it when the came game out.

[Kosmos992k]

XIV on PS3 wasn't released until 2013 though. So I'm sure SE knew of the shortcoming it would have and made it anyways. So from consumer standpoint doesn't matter when the system came out it when the came game out.

SE made a promise regarding FFXIV on PS3 which they kept - which is unusual in and of itself, but especially given the circumstances. When FFXIV was re-built the expanded PC compatibility included PCs that were contemporary to the original PS3. If you look at the actual specifications and issues that low end PCs experienced, it reads very similarly to the issues players experienced with PS3.

Back in the day, I used PS3 as did my wife and son, we all upgraded to PS4 and never looked back - so to speak. However the only real issue we ever experienced with the PS3 was when fighting Odin, or the hunt zerg rushes. Labyrinth of the Ancients (24-player) was never a problem, frame rates were sometimes low, but rarely unplayably so. the Svara fate in Coerthas was the one other issue early on, but once the draw priority was changed, it improved.

However those same issues existed for players with lower end PCs, so I don't see your argument here.

[Lexia]

However those same issues existed for players with lower end PCs, so I don't see your argument here.

The point is people are running around saying how PC is so much better and they all console support should be dropped, which I guess none of those people stop to think of the lower end PCs and Yoshi-p view point of wanting everything to be equal.

[LalaRu]

...Can a brand new console surpass or even match the graphics and features of a brand new PC built at the same time?

Compare a brand new 400$ console (ps4 pro) with a brand new 400$ PC and let me know.

[Adire]

Compare a brand new 400$ console (ps4 pro) with a brand new 400$ PC and let me know.

Compare a $1000 budget gaming PC's future proof-ness to the future proof-ness of a console and the amount of money you save on steam sales on games vs paying full price for years on console games and let me know which is more bang for your buck.