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  1. #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
    Textures have literally nothing to do with PS3 support, or PS4 support, or console support in general. FFXI was able to release a texture boost for PC while PS2 users still had the old textures because all that was needed was to replace the texture files in the Windows client. It's trivial, technically, but the problem is that actually creating all of the upgraded textures takes a lot of time (time, as in money).

    Kindly direct your energy there instead of associating the lack of upgraded textures with a completely irrelevant scapegoat like console users

    Sorry for being crabby but it's been years of ill-deserved persecution at this point. The guy who admits he has only been playing the game for five weeks telling half the playerbase to uninstall so that he can have a clone of WoW's floating combat text (who cares?) really gets my goat.
    I know graphical settings isn't because of the ps3 since we got dx11 support. The thing is Yoshi has this obsession with making everyone equal regardless which is kind of annoying. If a PC can handle beefier features they should have access to them but then the console players will feel left out and complain, but honestly they shouldn't really be complaining. This is one of the many reasons why people blame ps3 a lot of the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
    it's been years of ill-deserved persecution at this point. The guy who admits he has only been playing the game for five weeks telling half the playerbase to uninstall so that he can have a clone of WoW's floating combat text (who cares?) really gets my goat.
    Indeed....

    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    I know graphical settings isn't because of the ps3 since we got dx11 support. The thing is Yoshi has this obsession with making everyone equal regardless which is kind of annoying. If a PC can handle beefier features they should have access to them but then the console players will feel left out and complain, but honestly they shouldn't really be complaining. This is one of the many reasons why people blame ps3 a lot of the time.
    It's still very much misplaced hatred. As Roth_Trailfinder pointed out, there are plenty of PC players with toasters a good bit less capable than PS4 out there.
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    Last edited by Kosmos992k; 03-15-2017 at 01:30 AM.

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    I'm not seeing anything positive coming from this.
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    A MENTOR STOLE MY PS3 STORMBLOOD ACCESS
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    Quote Originally Posted by bass9020 View Post
    but then the console players will feel left out and complain, but honestly they shouldn't really be complaining. This is one of the many reasons why people blame ps3 a lot of the time.
    Except that the people complaining are always the PC users even when it's the console users who are left out. We don't get to see the benchmarks, we don't get easy access to backing up and other niceties, we don't get to take lovely 4k screenshots of our characters reclining on the beach in Mist, but if I was to trawl the forums and tally complaints I would wager that moaning about console users vastly, vastly outweighs this non-existent moaning from console users about how the PC platform has certain advantages over consoles.

    I seriously cannot remember a single thread about PS3 (or PS4) users complaining that the graphics can look better on high end PCs. We are too busy playing the game to fuss that our shadows aren't as shadowy as other shadows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
    Except that the people complaining are always the PC users even when it's the console users who are left out. We don't get to see the benchmarks, we don't get easy access to backing up and other niceties, we don't get to take lovely 4k screenshots of our characters reclining on the beach in Mist, but if I was to trawl the forums and tally complaints I would wager that moaning about console users vastly, vastly outweighs this non-existent moaning from console users about how the PC platform has certain advantages over consoles.
    Like I said, not my problem. I agree that it isn't right to not allow console players to play but you know going in what you can and can't have because of the system. Many other games allow vastly superior graphic options, xiv should be no different.
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    There's always going to be a bottom of the barrel. Technology goes, no need to be sappy with defending those innocent PS3 players. Sucks yeah, but it's not a new concept to have to upgrade to keep up by any stretch of the word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greedalox View Post
    There's always going to be a bottom of the barrel. Technology goes, no need to be sappy with defending those innocent PS3 players. Sucks yeah, but it's not a new concept to have to upgrade to keep up by any stretch of the word.
    Let me guess, "it's a harsh world, deal with it?" The fact is the reason it's a harsh place it attitudes like yours and others in this topic. A little more compassion and civility would make a big difference.

    ::readies for incoming sniping about "SJWs", "care bears", "safe spaces" and other bilge::
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    Last edited by Kosmos992k; 03-15-2017 at 01:52 AM.

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    WoW is PC only, and yet graphically it looks like garbage next to FFXIV. Frankly; graphics and inventory space aren't what appeals to me about this game, and atm it's personally been set aside in favor of Breath of the Wild for the time being (a game with technically simpler graphics on hardware inferior to the PS4). Heck, I had more fun playing FFXI on the 360 than I did my then still superior PC at the time.

    So despite my pc running a gtx1070 and 16gb of ram, I can't say you'd ever find me in the "PC Only" camp.
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    I don't care what platform somebody runs. The decision as to when you drop support is not an easy one. As a designer/developer you would like to take advantage of the latest and greatest hardware or software. However you have to stay in sync with your subscribed install base which typically lags the current technology by quite a bit. The result is compromises usually at the cost of the latest technology. At some point the install base of aged systems becomes small enough that you can drop support and exploit newer system functions. In the end though it all comes down to revenue. While I'd like to see a native Linux client I'm sure the money isn't there. Likewise I'm sure there is a significant chunk of revenue to be made in the console market which if ignored would make for a much less engaging game for those of us on the PC due to less money for development.
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