Dps As Healer

[Celef]

It's because this is a game where you have to group up with up to 23 other people to get stuff done. If you're not going to do your best just because "it's my sub", then frankly it just shows disrespect to the other people who's time you're wasting.

I agree on that but (and I might be wrong) those fights are not designed to be needing a healer to DPS are they ? (and if they are, forget what I said)
Basically, we are supposed to be abble to clean the content with the team we have.

Some healer might be lazy and use the "it's my sub" excuse of course but I've met healers who suffered when they were forced to DPS cause they were not used to / abble to manage it and were not given the time to learn how to do both :/
We don't expect a BLM to heal if the healer has trouble do we ?
Why do we expect healers to DPS if the DPS are not good enought ?
It's a lot of work and pressure you are putting on someone's shoulder and I would not be surprised if it's part of the reason we have less healers than DPS who are just expected to do damage.

[Watachy]

We don't expect a BLM to heal if the healer has trouble do we ?

A healer have tools to DPS consequently, a BLM don't have any tools to heal properly.
That's the difference, plus not doing your best during runs is just a disrespect towards 3,7 or 23 others players which pay a sub too.

[CorbinDallas]

A healer have tools to DPS consequently, a BLM don't have any tools to heal properly.
That's the difference, plus not doing your best during runs is just a disrespect towards 3,7 or 23 others players which pay a sub too.

^ Pretty much this.

Cleric Stance isn't there just so you can clear solo MSQ content, it's part of you toolkit you should find a place to use wherever you can. We wouldn't have such a myriad of different attack skills if it was never intended to use them. Why give us Stone 3/Broil/Aero 3/Assize (the damage portion), if we were never meant to DPS? The ARR skills would suffice for solo story content, as easy as it is, heck they could remove every DPS ability and give us just 1 button to do it, then it would be apparent that we're only meant to heal most of the time.

Regarding BLM's healing, while not optimal in the slightest, at least they're trying. It can't be anything other than good intent if a BLM were to start spamming Physick when shit hits the fan. By the same token, going out of your way to deal damage when it is safe to do so is equally as amazing. It says so much about the player that says "I'm going to do more than is expected and help people kill stuff faster", than someone who sits there saying "I'm a healer, all I do is heal".

[Celef]

A healer have tools to DPS consequently, a BLM don't have any tools to heal properly.
That's the difference, plus not doing your best during runs is just a disrespect towards 3,7 or 23 others players which pay a sub too.

I agree with that but my main issue is the way those healers are treated.
When you come to a game and choose a healer class, what do you exepect ? Right, to heal !
Most of us were not prepared to DPS (yes novice hall telles you that but come one....did anyone really read those "tutorials" ? xD ) and where treated like shit when we said it or asked for tips on how to manage both (and when we failed at one of them when learning).
Again, I agree you may find lazy healers, but most of those that I met were pretty surprised to realise they were expected to DPS by others (especially by the way they were told so....)

I can easely understand why those healers tell you to get off if they kept being called various names during their learning ^^"

[Watachy]

I can easely understand why those healers tell you to get off if they kept being called various names during their learning ^^"

DPSing as a healer is a thing that need practice, if i see someone trying by struggling to keep a good DPS and the party alive i won't mind the fact that he prefer to stay focused on healing.
But as we stated before there is no real content out of Savage that requires a lot of healing.

Plus i just hate the lazy guys, you see easily the people that are trying and the ones /following with netflix on.

That's why i have to tag as a healer everywhere when i go on DF, too many lazy healers with there "let me play (be lazy) the way i want"