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    WHM being solo healer and AST + SCH forced to run together if they want to match the healing capabilities of WHM for content (not counting 4 man dungeons) wouldn't be such an unbalanced idea. As long as AST + SCH would be able to heal the same as solo WHM and provide the same utility/support/DPS as a 5th DPS. In a Meta with 3 healers and 2 healing spots it's probably one of the best ideas to solve the problem. Not the best, but not such a crazy one.

    MOREOVER, it would solve the problem with people wanting/not wanting to DPS as healer.

    WHM -> For people who don't want to DPS and focus healing (and maybe provide some utility?)
    SCH + AST -> For people that want to heal and do something else rather than healing.
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    Last edited by AlphaSonic; 03-14-2017 at 07:33 AM.

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    To be honest, I don't actually see people wigging out in duties over healer DPS as much as the forums like to wig out about it. I encounter a fair share of non-DPSing cohealers in 8-man content and I DGAF and just let them do their thing. I encounter aggressive DPSers who barely contribute to healing less than that, but even then I pretty much don't wig out over that, either - I just adapt to whatever my partner is doing at the time and roll with it.

    I'm passionate about it here because this is an avenue for feedback, and I like to let the devs know that while I'm not berating my fellow DFers over it, I dislike current healing design and I'd like for it to change. But I don't want to give the impression that I'm someone who routinely tells others how to play unless it's clear we're not going to be able to clear the content without them making adjustments in some way.
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    People need to stop telling others how toplay in general, there is a kick option for a reason people use it and shut up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorx View Post
    People need to stop telling others how toplay in general, there is a kick option for a reason people use it and shut up!
    Looks like the thread is coming to an end as the conversation is starting to degrade.
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    Let's Nerf healer dps! Make cleric stance give no bonus besides the int switch.
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    Yoshida remove CS pls!

    Restore all healers offensive magics base on MND, no more CS is needed !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Let's Nerf healer dps! Make cleric stance give no bonus besides the int switch.
    Even with a 10% reduction my WHM will still outDPS the average DF DPS on trash. That isn't much of a nerf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunda_Cat_SMASH View Post
    Let's Nerf healer dps! Make cleric stance give no bonus besides the int switch.
    That's not going to change teh conversation at all, though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicobo View Post
    Yoshida remove CS pls!

    Restore all healers offensive magics base on MND, no more CS is needed !!
    You do realize this will only make people want healers to DPS even more right?
    Cleric Stance is working as an excuse healers can use for not dpsing. Remove it, and you'll really have to answer to why you're not utilizing your DPS spells.
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    Next 30 page Healer DPS debate will be in 14 days.
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