Dps As Healer

[CorbinDallas]

I don't get you people, you make it looks so complicated oO
You wanna DPS ? Fine DPS as long as everyone is alive
You don't want to DPS and /chicken during the fight ? Fine, /chiken

Why is everyone so concerned about how the others play their role as long as the job is done* ? oO

(*trash / boss down)

It's because this is a game where you have to group up with up to 23 other people to get stuff done. If you're not going to do your best just because "it's my sub", then frankly it just shows disrespect to the other people who's time you're wasting.

[BCRD]

It's because this is a game where you have to group up with up to 23 other people to get stuff done. If you're not going to do your best just because "it's my sub", then frankly it just shows disrespect to the other people who's time you're wasting.

I agree.

SCH is my main and I enjoy helping out full-time during battle which includes a lot of DPS'ing. In addition to be baffled by the "I only heal" crowd, I'm also highly concerned that so many people actually feel comfortable bringing that type philosophy to a party setting. I would feel super uncomfortable being that lazy and expecting others to deal.

[CorbinDallas]

I agree.

SCH is my main and I enjoy helping out full-time during battle which includes a lot of DPS'ing. In addition to be baffled to the "I only heal" crowd but I'm highly concerned that so many people actually feel comfortable bringing that type philosophy to a party setting. I would feel super uncomfortable being that lazy and expecting others to deal.

I physically cringe when I see a bunch of healers standing around doing nothing, or even worse, using various AoE healing abilities during the Life Gate DPS check during Dun Scaith. I make a point of /a'ing: "Isn't it amazing how there is literally 0 damage during this phase? It's almost like everyone has time to switch to their DPS stance! "

It's not about "every healer HAS to DPS", it's about respect. Queueing for multiplayer, team oriented content, and sitting there doing the absolute bare minimum, and this goes the 1 button DPS players too, is disrespectful to everyone else in that party.

[Ilenya]

I physically cringe when I see a bunch of healers standing around doing nothing, or even worse, using various AoE healing abilities during the Life Gate DPS check during Dun Scaith. I make a point of /a'ing: "Isn't it amazing how there is literally 0 damage during this phase? It's almost like everyone has time to switch to their DPS stance! "

It's not about "every healer HAS to DPS", it's about respect. Queueing for multiplayer, team oriented content, and sitting there doing the absolute bare minimum, and this goes the 1 button DPS players too, is disrespectful to everyone else in that party.

For what it's worth, when I SCH Dun Scaith I use that time to get Stoneskin back up on everyone, prepping for the moves I know are coming. Having time to set up shields makes the next phase a little easier.

Granted, then I go back to DPSing, but still.

[Watachy]

It's because this is a game where you have to group up with up to 23 other people to get stuff done. If you're not going to do your best just because "it's my sub", then frankly it just shows disrespect to the other people who's time you're wasting.

Here, enjoy my upvote

[Celef]

It's because this is a game where you have to group up with up to 23 other people to get stuff done. If you're not going to do your best just because "it's my sub", then frankly it just shows disrespect to the other people who's time you're wasting.

I agree on that but (and I might be wrong) those fights are not designed to be needing a healer to DPS are they ? (and if they are, forget what I said)
Basically, we are supposed to be abble to clean the content with the team we have.

Some healer might be lazy and use the "it's my sub" excuse of course but I've met healers who suffered when they were forced to DPS cause they were not used to / abble to manage it and were not given the time to learn how to do both :/
We don't expect a BLM to heal if the healer has trouble do we ?
Why do we expect healers to DPS if the DPS are not good enought ?
It's a lot of work and pressure you are putting on someone's shoulder and I would not be surprised if it's part of the reason we have less healers than DPS who are just expected to do damage.

[Watachy]

We don't expect a BLM to heal if the healer has trouble do we ?

A healer have tools to DPS consequently, a BLM don't have any tools to heal properly.
That's the difference, plus not doing your best during runs is just a disrespect towards 3,7 or 23 others players which pay a sub too.

[CorbinDallas]

A healer have tools to DPS consequently, a BLM don't have any tools to heal properly.
That's the difference, plus not doing your best during runs is just a disrespect towards 3,7 or 23 others players which pay a sub too.

^ Pretty much this.

Cleric Stance isn't there just so you can clear solo MSQ content, it's part of you toolkit you should find a place to use wherever you can. We wouldn't have such a myriad of different attack skills if it was never intended to use them. Why give us Stone 3/Broil/Aero 3/Assize (the damage portion), if we were never meant to DPS? The ARR skills would suffice for solo story content, as easy as it is, heck they could remove every DPS ability and give us just 1 button to do it, then it would be apparent that we're only meant to heal most of the time.

Regarding BLM's healing, while not optimal in the slightest, at least they're trying. It can't be anything other than good intent if a BLM were to start spamming Physick when shit hits the fan. By the same token, going out of your way to deal damage when it is safe to do so is equally as amazing. It says so much about the player that says "I'm going to do more than is expected and help people kill stuff faster", than someone who sits there saying "I'm a healer, all I do is heal".

[Celef]

A healer have tools to DPS consequently, a BLM don't have any tools to heal properly.
That's the difference, plus not doing your best during runs is just a disrespect towards 3,7 or 23 others players which pay a sub too.

I agree with that but my main issue is the way those healers are treated.
When you come to a game and choose a healer class, what do you exepect ? Right, to heal !
Most of us were not prepared to DPS (yes novice hall telles you that but come one....did anyone really read those "tutorials" ? xD ) and where treated like shit when we said it or asked for tips on how to manage both (and when we failed at one of them when learning).
Again, I agree you may find lazy healers, but most of those that I met were pretty surprised to realise they were expected to DPS by others (especially by the way they were told so....)

I can easely understand why those healers tell you to get off if they kept being called various names during their learning ^^"

[Watachy]

I can easely understand why those healers tell you to get off if they kept being called various names during their learning ^^"

DPSing as a healer is a thing that need practice, if i see someone trying by struggling to keep a good DPS and the party alive i won't mind the fact that he prefer to stay focused on healing.
But as we stated before there is no real content out of Savage that requires a lot of healing.

Plus i just hate the lazy guys, you see easily the people that are trying and the ones /following with netflix on.

That's why i have to tag as a healer everywhere when i go on DF, too many lazy healers with there "let me play (be lazy) the way i want"