Stop Giving the "Need" Command for Drop Gear in Dungeons to Higher Geared Players!

[ReplicaX]

Need is for equipping - that's why the Need button is restricted by job/class. Greed is for everything else. If you need for seals or desynth, you are taking advantage of the system in an unfair way and deciding that your want is more important than everyone else's who also want that item for the same thing you do.

Welcome to RNG.

Your "etiquette" is not how the system was designed. The system as is gives everyone the opportunity on the job & content they queued for by design.

Proper etiquette is communicating with your party members and all members agreeing to different loot rules. Communicate and mutually agree or go the job you want gear for as that is how it was intended.

[Tinkerblue]

I completely agree with seals/desynth being a valid reason to "need" something but I'm going to add another reason. PvP. It matters little what your ilvl is in pvp cause it all syncs down. Stats are what matter. Those 225 tank boots with crit/det from gubal library hard are better than 270 shire or savage boots. So yes, I will be hitting "need" when I see the 225 boots as a tank.

[Yudzster]

lelelele this guy is pure entertainment

[Cordie]

How about this: enable the "need" option for everyone.
I need all items for seals not any less than any other random class/role.

[SigmaOZ]

I am getting sick and tired of finding a piece of gear I need for one of my Job classes and someone with higher lvl gear who clearly doesn't need it anymore goes and hits the "Need" button anyways and snatches it away!

Higher levels geared players should NOT have the ability to do that and needs to be changed where they have to gamble with their luck through the Greed command like everyone else who's Job class doesn't relate to a certain piece of drop gear in a dungeon.

No way!...

If you need a certain piece of gear DO what most serious players would and play the job that needs it, what you propose it's not fair, besides that RNG sucks and only by needing you can be certain of getting what you want, given there's no one else that can need too!...

[Cordie]

No way!...

If you need a certain piece of gear DO what most serious players would and play the job that needs it, what you propose it's not fair, besides that RNG sucks and only by needing you can be certain of getting what you want, given there's no one else that can need too!...

I think this has been discussed extensively in other threads too as well as mentioned here before: Going in with an undergeared class/job you are knowingly obstructing the group's performance and artificially increasing the effort the other 3 unlucky ppl in your party have to put forth to balance your handicap.

[SigmaOZ]

I think this has been discussed extensively in other threads too as well as mentioned here before: Going in with an undergeared class/job you are knowingly obstructing the group's performance and artificially increasing the effort the other 3 unlucky ppl in your party have to put forth to balance your handicap.

That is your cheap excuse, there are many ways to gear up before a given duty and if you meet the minimum item level then no one can argue you are burdening them!...

The quality of your gear depends on the amount of time you put in the effort of getting it and you can't possibly say there aren't enough ways of getting it, craft it if you have to, buy it or expend tomes on it!...

[Naunet]

or go the job you want gear for as that is how it was intended.

Except even if one IS on the job they want gear for, it's possible they will lose their roll to someone who just wants to destroy it for seals or mats. This has happened to me a great number of times.

[Kaedan]

Except even if one IS on the job they want gear for, it's possible they will lose their roll to someone who just wants to destroy it for seals or mats. This has happened to me a great number of times.

1) The only instance in which that can occur is when there are two DPS of the same job, which is relatively rare in a dungeon.

2) Even if they win the roll, it's still completely fair and equal, and it doesn't matter one iota what they plan to use it for. Them using it for GC seals or desynthesis or glamour is just as valid and "necessary" as you using it for stats. In fact, it's often more "necessary" for someone using it for purposes other than stats because any dungeon gear used for stats is going to be replaced soon.

[SendohJin]

I understand that you can put it in for seals; however, how is your need for seals greater than someone elses need for seals.

I can only chuckle when people are bringing statistical arguments.

That's the person that decided to bring math into it, not the person you quoted, so if you're not chuckling at the right person, I'll be chuckling at you.