Stop Giving the "Need" Command for Drop Gear in Dungeons to Higher Geared Players!

[Kaurie]

Lets make it easy, I don't need it as glamor or gear, I trade it in for Company seals for crafting, relic items. Mostly all high levels use this for these means. Now if people ask me to pass I will. Otherwise yes it is a NEED. IF anyone speaks up they will be heard and most high level people are reasonable and willing to co operate. Unless your rude about it. High level gives about 1100+ seals and with FC or item bonus more. So you could see if we need 99 of crafting gear or items it's a must. Some relic items are 4k to 20k in seals so there really is a need. If you happen to be one of those players that doesn't do relics or craft I can understand why you feel the way you do. Just keep in mind there is a reason why we select a need. IF you rather not speak up play that role so you can get priority. Otherwise speak up and depend on RNG. Yep based on your loadstone profile I'm not surprised you feel it's unfair.

I understand that you can put it in for seals; however, how is your need for seals greater than someone elses need for seals. If needing for seals was an appropriate understanding of the term 'need', then everyone would be able to need everything. A WHM can trade a Fending accessory in for seals just as easily as a Paladin.

Anyway, I don't strongly care for this issue. The gear is usually so low for the content time, that I'd rather gear up alts via other methods. That said, I agree more with the OP than others.

[ManuelBravo]

I understand that you can put it in for seals; however, how is your need for seals greater than someone elses need for seals. If needing for seals was an appropriate understanding of the term 'need', then everyone would be able to need everything. A WHM can trade a Fending accessory in for seals just as easily as a Paladin.

Anyway, I don't strongly care for this issue. The gear is usually so low for the content time, that I'd rather gear up alts via other methods. That said, I agree more with the OP than others.

/facepalm I doubt that you understand, Ok lets define need in game, another way of saying is as First pick at item based on your role. The system will not allow you to carry two of the same unless it's on retainer. With that being said IF you don't understand why we do it after a simple explanation for the priority of seals vs others you may want to consider either building a relic, or crafting to see it first hand. IF you rather not do that then all I can tell you is all is fair with the loot unless you make your own party and set loot rules, spoiler alert you will have a long wait. With this I will end this conversation. It doesn't get any simpler than this.

[Seig345]

[...]If needing for seals was an appropriate understanding of the term 'need', then everyone would be able to need everything. A WHM can trade a Fending accessory in for seals just as easily as a Paladin. [...]

But there is more than one drop in a dungeon. Each drop has a statistic possibility of being something you can need on. Therefore, the option of needing on an item for the seals is in fact available to everyone, just not all on the same piece of gear.

A whm can need a whm piece out from under that PLD for the seals as easily as a PLD can need a PLD piece out from under a WHM. Statistically, it's an even playing field.

[Zojha]

Statistically, it's an even playing field.

Statistically, every household in the USA had around 145k-170k dollar monetary assets and around 56k national debt in 2015 (Numbers vary by source).

So...statistically, the entire national debt could just be paid off in one day and everyone would still have around 40-50/90k-110k left (Depending on household size - average is 2,5 people, which would put the remainder of cash at 5k-30k). That's how the situation looks statistically. Sounds like a pretty good plan, eh?

I can only chuckle when people are bringing statistical arguments.

[SendohJin]

I understand that you can put it in for seals; however, how is your need for seals greater than someone elses need for seals.

I can only chuckle when people are bringing statistical arguments.

That's the person that decided to bring math into it, not the person you quoted, so if you're not chuckling at the right person, I'll be chuckling at you.

[Fyce]

I can only chuckle when people are bringing statistical arguments.

Are you aware that you're making fun of "statistics" while playing a MMORPG which mostly relies on them for... well... almost everything? Heck, our whole society relies on maths and statistics to even work.

Besides, aside from making a completly absurd comparison, you haven't said why his approach would be wrong, making your post irrelevant. Good job at proving nothing.

[Seig345]

[...] I can only chuckle when people are bringing statistical arguments.

I can only chuckle when people make their rebuttal based on only part of someone's post rather than the whole point.

That big bad Paladin needed something out from under you, but you can do the same when something drops for your role. Unless you're honestly trying to say the RNG is out to get you (lol...), there is no problem here.

[Alistaire]

I understand that you can put it in for seals; however, how is your need for seals greater than someone elses need for seals?

It isn't. That's why they have the option of needing if a piece of seal fodder drops for their job, and you get to do the same if one drops for yours, and if one drops for nobody's, everyone rolls greed.

That system's fine, and should not be changed.