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[Claire_Pendragon]

Simply should have split it to be either promote upward, or only promote up to your current rank.
If the Leader decided to do the former, then the FC just has to deal with it, even if the leader leaves.

[Dustytome]

Simply should have split it to be either promote upward, or only promote up to your current rank.
If the Leader decided to do the former, then the FC just has to deal with it, even if the leader leaves.

What's the point of having "promote upwards" as an option at all though? If there's a rank that has all inclusive access to temporarily take over for the leader, anyone with promote privs has access to that rank at any point in time regardless of the leader's status. Just add hierarchy to the entire rank list and if someone wants to make a backup leader rank they can entrust that directly to someone and just tell them to pretend they don't have certain privs unless something happens to the leader.

[Claire_Pendragon]

What's the point of having "promote upwards" as an option at all though? If there's a rank that has all inclusive access to temporarily take over for the leader, anyone with promote privs has access to that rank at any point in time regardless of the leader's status. Just add hierarchy to the entire rank list and if someone wants to make a backup leader rank they can entrust that directly to someone and just tell them to pretend they don't have certain privs unless something happens to the leader.

I have 3 alts in my FC, and I want them to be able to do w/e my main can in its entirety. And SE has mentioned they dont plan to remove this feature, so we should instead be asking for something else, or some middle ground.

[Solarra]

I have 3 alts in my FC, and I want them to be able to do w/e my main can in its entirety. And SE has mentioned they dont plan to remove this feature, so we should instead be asking for something else, or some middle ground.

I don't understand how making this change would affect you negatively. Under the present system your alts cannot promote themselves to FC Leader but you are able to set permissions so they can do everything else your main can. However, if your alts have that much power you absolutely cannot afford to let anyone else promote within your FC, because if someone promoted themselves to your alts' rank they could clean your company out.
Changing this would give you more protection and let you delegate promotions.

The official response was given before they implemented the auto-transfer of power when a FC Leader goes inactive, so basically it's out of date. Reading through the thread Please Fix This FC Exploit, it would appear that there are effectively only 2 FC ranks, leader and everyone else.
Ideally, we need a hierarchy established and nobody allowed to promote above their own rank. This would give maximum flexibility to FC leaders.
Alternatively, they could just remove the ability to promote from all other ranks and lock it to the leader (far less flexible and less ideal but absolutely better than what we have).

Considering that thread was started in 2014 and problems are still occuring three years later, I do feel something needs to be done.

[Dustytome]

I have 3 alts in my FC, and I want them to be able to do w/e my main can in its entirety.

And how does a proper hierarchy system change that?

[Kosmos992k]

I have 3 alts in my FC, and I want them to be able to do w/e my main can in its entirety. And SE has mentioned they dont plan to remove this feature, so we should instead be asking for something else, or some middle ground.

No offense, but your point of view comes across as very narrow and self serving, and mis-informed since I am not aware of any negative impact such a change would have on your situation.

The problem we aer discussing has affected numerous Free Companies and players negatively and is easily resolved with relatively minor changes. This whole thing about emergency leadership changes when the FC Master goes AWOL is a red-herring since there is now a system that provides for automatic leadership change if an FC Master goes missing.

I think a given rank must not even be able to promote others up to their own rank.

This is the serious flaw that made me decide to never give promotions/demotions rights to others than Master. Yes I trust my Officers but I cannot risk a whole FC for an error it can happen.

It is quite amusing this flaw running wild for years, makes me feel on this side we are same league with cheap f2p games.

Indeed, I cannot see how SE can justify exposing paying customers to these kinds of risks due to a serious design flaw that they will not patch.

If the only one who could promote or demote was the master than it would never be a problem.

Yes, that is currently the only reliable 'solution'. But for larger FCs it creates an issue because it places the complete load on the FC master, and if the Master goes on holiday or is out sick, then no promotions/demotions can happen. FC Masters should be able to delegate promotion capability without risking the entire FC.

You cannot promote to the very top, but if you have another rank below that (maybe for an alt to have all the permissions your main does like the op had, or for officers) and a lower rank has promote permissions, they can raise themselves up to any rank other than leader and gain the permissions of that rank.

Indeed, it's the Free Company equivalent of allowing some users to "su root" without a password...