100M GIL taken

[ToasterMan]

If MMO's worked hard towards having a more community-based system regarding issues- be it someone disappearing, or abuse- they would be a golden example for the industry. It might take work but with social media, it's possible we could try to change the game for the better. The best ways to prevent abuse of any system is democratically. Now, I'm not saying that's the PERFECT way, for no system is perfect, but it's better than having strict rules that people can simply circumvent.

The person who robbed Shaemus should have their SE accounts terminated immediately. No warning. Their actions are irredeemable. That, I think everyone could agree towards.

Absolutely. I said it before and I'll say it again. One of the reasons stuff like this keeps happening frequently is because the perpetrators face no consequences. If players saw people actually getting banned for preforming these acts, we'd see less of this happening. People would think twice.

[Thaelin_AnCrach]

Absolutely. I said it before and I'll say it again. One of the reasons stuff like this keeps happening frequently is because the perpetrators face no consequences. If players saw people actually getting banned for preforming these acts, we'd see less of this happening. People would think twice.

Also keep in mind how many might be repeat offenders. It's far too easy to deceive people on the internet, and some people get their jollies off to this exact stuff.

[RyuSaarva]

Could be a flaw, but the fact still remain that he gave a lower rank the power of demote/promote, which by itself is powerful and the person took advantage of it because people were ignorant.



If it's common and has been brought up numerous times why didn't OP knew about it? I don't own a FC and i knew about it

I have never heard about it before because I play the game and not talk about it online, I sometimes come here to see what people are complaining about again.

[Solarra]

A few points that came up:

Why didn't the OP know how permissions worked and prevent this?
Well I can only speak for myself but I remember how I found out. Somebody had the exact same thing happen to them and posted a warning here. Up to then, I'd assumed this was like other MMOs and hadn't even considered the posibility people might be able to promote above their own rank.
It's not like this is consistent in the game, you can't even promote above your own rank in a Linkshell!

It's a useful feature that allows FCs to function if the Master unexpectedly stops logging in
Er, no. The only way it can help in that situation is a) the rank below Master has Chest access, can build and commission airships etc. Or b) that rank has permission to change rank settings.
That's a lot of 'ifs'. If the absent FC master had everything locked down tight, someone promoting themselves to the rank below won't be able to run the FC effectively.
The auto transfer of power we have now is much better and basically makes this unnecessary.

The OPs story is not unique, this keeps happening. Only a couple of weeks ago there was somebody boasting on Reddit how he'd used this 'feature' to scam another player who bought a FC from him. He was completely shameless about it, probably because he knew no action would be taken against him in-game.
I'm sorry but this is not good design, the only winners are people who are dishonest or spiteful. This needs to go.

[Freerider]

My fc leader has a great option the only people allowed to promote are those that he personally knows. As a decently high ranked fc member I can't even touch the gil.

[Celef]

My fc leader has a great option the only people allowed to promote are those that he personally knows. As a decently high ranked fc member I can't even touch the gil.

That's exactly how it works for us too, the only ones who can take from the bank are myself (leader) and my boyfriend (first lady of the guild )
Plus, the players we don't know yet have no permissions at all during the "test period" (3 to 4 weeks) if they (and us) pass that period they get permission on house and garden BUT still nothing on the bank.
On the other hand, it's almost always empty cause everyone buys the thing for the CL when they are needed so....xD

[Dustytome]

1) It was the original way to allow people to circumvent the problem of an FC leader quitting the game and abandoning the FC to naught. The leader could give one of the officers the ability to promote in the case that they would have to leave the game. Thus allowing the FC to continue and not have to be disbanded if the FC members wanted to continue.

2) The implementation of automatic leader change only mitigates it somewhat. It takes a minimum of a month for it to kick in, so the FC is screwed for that month if the leader has to leave the game for any reason (emergency or otherwise). So the promote ability is a necessary backup tool (and was the original tool for this purpose).

That seems illogical. In those situations the fc leader has already essentially entrusted those individuals with whatever access they granted the top rank since they can promote themselves on a whim. In those cases the fc leader might as well have just given those people the privs of their highest rank. It's absolutely worthless/pointless for that intention.

[AsahinaMyLove]

Good thing I have my own FC and my few chars are the only members! o_O No Dramas and the FC chest is my warehouse!

[JunseiKei]

People need to realize that there are essentially only two ranks when it comes to promotion: owner and then everything else. SE has said that it is not a bug, it was intentional and they won't be fixing it (not that I agree).

[Kosmos992k]

People need to realize that there are essentially only two ranks when it comes to promotion: owner and then everything else. SE has said that it is not a bug, it was intentional and they won't be fixing it (not that I agree).

Do you have a link to the specific statement from SE about this?