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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyashi View Post
    Samurai in XIV is a DPS. It's not a tank and will never be a tank b/c if it is a tank then the DRK players that wanted it a DPS would then have a good case for their being a DRK DPS class. If you wanted SAM a tank I'm sorry but it's not, in this game it's going to be a DPS like it was in XI. Look towards the next expansion to see what new Tank job we'll get as it seems it'll be a healer and tank in the next expansion to keep the balance going.
    Samurai is not a tank, its DPS. I am not asking for Samurai to not be a DPS and Become Tank. I am asking for the devs to consider Shogun as a potential new job original to XIV. Similerly, if people want a Dark Knight type job as a DPS, it is also possible. But it need to be under a new name, use a diffrent weapon, but still use dark powers. Either of which can be implemened in diffrent ways that we can't think of, since we are not trained to create game content.

    I undertand it is easier to give up and not do anything, but if nothing is done or attempted, how would devs know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yin111 View Post
    Samurai is not a tank, its DPS. I am not asking for Samurai to not be a DPS and Become Tank. I am asking for the devs to consider Shogun as a potential new job original to XIV. Similerly, if people want a Dark Knight type job as a DPS, it is also possible. It need to be under a new name, use a diffrent weapon, but still use dark powers. Either of which can be implemened in diffrent ways that we can't think of, since we are not trained to create game content.
    tbh drk and war do more dps than most dps anyway. so might aswell
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    Just play Dark Knight. We use two-handed swords and a few styles look like katanas.

    Yes, I know it's not the same thing, but a Shogun would be far, far too much overlap and redundancy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    Just play Dark Knight. We use two-handed swords and a few styles look like katanas.

    Yes, I know it's not the same thing, but a Shogun would be far, far too much overlap and redundancy.
    hate drk, only use it on a12s
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHajime View Post
    hate drk, only use it on a12s
    Then you wouldn't likely enjoy "Shogun" either, because it would be the same job with maybe a slightly different skin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    Then you wouldn't likely enjoy "Shogun" either, because it would be the same job with maybe a slightly different skin.
    and you know I wont how? just cuz they would both have a parry trait? cuz that's the only argument you can use
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    Last edited by SaitoHajime; 02-20-2017 at 10:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaitoHajime View Post
    and you know I wont how?
    Because they would essentially be the same job. Unless they had the Shogun use a War Fan or something exotic.

    See the post by Kazrah above.
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    Jadasif Ren
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    I just wanna see a tank with War Hammer. Like Nero to Scaeva.
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    Jhemiya Ceero
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    After sticking to "PLD" for two years now and being to invested into tanking once i found out it was pretty much selftorture to play it, I was waiting for a a different tank. Considering I absolutly despise both "WAR" and "DRK" (maybe because i ran into much that where either really bad, had to rub their superiority into my face or both) i was secretly hoping for a Shogun style tank.

    I for one doubt that whatever rework "PLD" will get will make me want to play it even one day longer after "STORMBLOOD" launch. They would have to give us two swords to wield in "Sword Oath", an actual Limit Break worth looking at and actually make us do damage aswell as overall make us usefull in any way to keep me tanking anymore as once i stop doing so i doubt i will ever return to it unless they add a tank that would spike my interest enough (like Shogun would).

    To all those saying that a Shogun tank would just be like "DRK" please use your imagination a bit more. There are so may ways to make it unique and different from any other job (even Samurai) that there is hardly a reason to not actually cater to a fraction of the playerbase outside of "Savage" and "Feast" for once.
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    Last edited by Jhemi; 02-20-2017 at 10:42 AM.

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    J'talhdi Belhi
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    I seriously doubt they will do another Job with such similarities to SAM. I expect whatever the next 2 Jobs we get in 5.0 will not be Far East themed either and probably more closely tied to wherever we go next.
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