Request to unlock Hempen set styles

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Gonna post the same thing I posted on the hairstyle thread about this same topic, slightly edited tho.

The reason why I'm against removing any race restrictions is that this game doesn't offer any race specific content, only "content" that offers some unique traits to the races (other than the obvious physical differences) are hairstyles, hempen sets and starter gear. That honestly isn't much at all, I know not everyone cares about that stuff, but there are still many who do. Removing the restrictions would take away the little uniqueness the races have left.

There's plenty of glamours available for all, and all the glamour items they will add in the future will most likely be without restrictions as well, so it really isn't unreasonable to have those few gear sets restricted.

If you are going to make this argument, there needs be some significance to why they should stay racial locked beyond "because uniqueness!" None of the Hempen gear has any lore relevancy to their respective races. One could easily argue the Elezen set is less openly revealing due to Ishgard's high societal standard and emphasis on proper decor. In that sense, Hyurs living there would share similar beliefs and dress accordingly. We actually see this in the Amalj'aa story arc with Loonh Gah.

I suppose I am just not seeing why Hempen is the hill you're willing to die on, so to speak, when the in-game lore makes no attempt whatsoever to remotely tie those sets to any of the races. It's simply a holdover from older MMO design.

[MPNZ]

They should just put back in the undergarment selection (or at least let us dye our undergarments), and add bed-ware/casual selection slots too.

[Sterre]

Snip.

I already explained my reason for wanting to keep hempen gear race locked. If that's not good enough reason for you, too bad but I'm not gonna change my view about this.

However, I'm done debating about this topic and will leave it to DEVs to decide what they will do, whatever they will end up deciding, I'll live with it.

Good day.

[Unease_Lemming]

As was mentioned in the comments in this topic, whilst the relevant question was asked during FanFest, it appears to have been completely lost in translation.

The request is not at all for a new version of the actual underwear (e.g. nothing equipped at all) or a change to the "skin" of that.

All this is about is the addition of several new versions of the Hempen Underpants, Hempen Pantalettes, Hempen Undershirt, and Hempen Camise, to give each race access to all racial versions.

I know this likely won't have any effect on whether the new gears get created or not, but I still felt it important to clarify this, seeing as how overall there are a lot of us that would really like to have the greater variety of gears, and I would hate for a mistranslation to cause any harm to the chances of this happening.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

As was mentioned in the comments in this topic, whilst the relevant question was asked during FanFest, it appears to have been completely lost in translation.

The request is not at all for a new version of the actual underwear (e.g. nothing equipped at all) or a change to the "skin" of that.

All this is about is the addition of several new versions of the Hempen Underpants, Hempen Pantalettes, Hempen Undershirt, and Hempen Camise, to give each race access to all racial versions.

I know this likely won't have any effect on whether the new gears get created or not, but I still felt it important to clarify this, seeing as how overall there are a lot of us that would really like to have the greater variety of gears, and I would hate for a mistranslation to cause any harm to the chances of this happening.

I...
Well...

Do we need to start bringing picture illustrations for these questions?

[Magic-Mal]

I...
Well...

Do we need to start bringing picture illustrations for these questions?

I'd say get better translators. Luxpheras(Community Rep) understood exactly what we were asking for and I guess the question in Japanese somehow got turned into something else.

[Fawkes]

I'd say get better translators. Luxpheras(Community Rep) understood exactly what we were asking for and I guess the question in Japanese somehow got turned into something else.

It is a bit of an esoteric thing, if you're not reading this thread.

It doesn't help that we used to have an underwear slot and people have requested to have that slot back previously so Koji/Yoshi might just think "oh it's this question again" when they hear someone ask about underwear.

Hopefully next time it won't get piggybacked onto a hair question and will be explained more thoroughly.

[Nezerius]

The way I understood Yoshi-P's answer, is that the hempen set is actually still tagged as some sort of underwear (sort of a relic from 1.0, when it was the default underwear). It's possible that this tag is what causes the item to have a different model when worn by different races, even the ones that got introduced with 2.0 and 3.0.
A way to get around this (and probably a work-intensive way), is to recreate each hempen style as a separate item, and modeling it to each race's model.

As for "get better translators", that notion is kinda silly, considering Koji was doing the translating during the live letter.

[Fawkes]

The way I understood Yoshi-P's answer, is that the hempen set is actually still tagged as some sort of underwear (sort of a relic from 1.0, when it was the default underwear). It's possible that this tag is what causes the item to have a different model when worn by different races, even the ones that got introduced with 2.0 and 3.0.
A way to get around this (and probably a work-intensive way), is to recreate each hempen style as a separate item, and modeling it to each race's model.

I think the game is on a completely different engine so I doubt any bugs from 1.0 would still persist. And it would be strange to create a special underwear tag or whatever for this one piece of gear to work differently when there's no benefit to it. I'm pretty sure they just made it regular gear when they eliminated the underwear slot.

They would have to recreate the gear for each race either way. It's one item that changes appearance depending on who wears it, you would have to add additional items for each style to be separated.

[Nezerius]

I think the game is on a completely different engine so I doubt any bugs from 1.0 would still persist. And it would be strange to create a special underwear tag or whatever for this one piece of gear to work differently when there's no benefit to it. I'm pretty sure they just made it regular gear when they eliminated the underwear slot.

They would have to recreate the gear for each race either way. It's one item that changes appearance depending on who wears it, you would have to add additional items for each style to be separated.

There's clearly something different about the hempen gear, though. What other gear changes look based on race, while only being one single item? (as in, there's only one actual hempen camise item that can be worn by all races)