DPS obsession in farm groups

[Malzian]

-snip- On a side note-- I find it funny when ppl complain about encounters/raids being too easy but they are usually the first ones to try to find exploits or ways skip/cheese mechanics somehow to make another encounter easier.

LOL, I know. My irony meter explodes every time I see that...

I share a sentiment of laughter (though my reaction is more like *Rolls eyes*) when I hear things are too easy as well. I would like to know how many people that complain about things "being too easy" actually try to do anything to challenge themselves like low manning an EX Primal or running content with min ilvl sync on.

Challenge can be self-imposed. S-E doesn't need to do anything to make things challenging when there are perfectly good ways to challenge oneself or a group of players if they can. If you're looking for a reward for challenging content in a certain way - that reward is your accomplishment doing something most people aren't able to do.

Well, to be fair, usually these skips and such are found randomly by world first groups as they grind through the content to clear as fast as they can. Then, considering that some are just built in bits of the fight, they leverage them to get an edge on being first and end up revealing it to everyone else after the race is over. The issue is that -then- every other group that comes along goes, "We need to do it exactly the way the World First groups did it because that must be the best and only way to do it." Which is patently false, but that's what ends up happening.

[Ghishlain]

Well, to be fair, usually these skips and such are found randomly by world first groups as they grind through the content to clear as fast as they can. Then, considering that some are just built in bits of the fight, they leverage them to get an edge on being first and end up revealing it to everyone else after the race is over. The issue is that -then- every other group that comes along goes, "We need to do it exactly the way the World First groups did it because that must be the best and only way to do it." Which is patently false, but that's what ends up happening.

This reminds me of my own group, lol. We do things so opposite of what most groups do things I have actually named the raid LS "WE DO THINGS BACK ASSWARDS"

A few examples:

T11 - We tank Kaliyah in the opposite direction most people run and we also have tether groups run in the opposite direction as most PuG strategies (I believe most people tank South while we tank North? And most people run right while we run left)
A11S - We explode south tower for space in the final phase when most groups preserve the south tower in anyway humanly possible for their clears
Zurvan - In final phase, we tank Zurvan E-W prior to rotating clockwise and positioning groups N-S as Lost Seal is going out while most groups have their groups N-W prior to Southern Cross and then splits E-W after Southern Cross