DPS obsession in farm groups

[Heal4fastQueues]

i'm so tired of this,i start a farm party,we clear the trial,yes it takes 8 minutes over 6 minutes,some amazing dps parsing lovely individual inevitably goes:

"OMGRRRD DPS LOW I'M LEAVING LIKE TOTALLY LUULLLZ LERN TO PLAY GAMEZ NOOBZ"

then all the startled parroting idiots jump the ship,and this repeats ad nauseum .

this is not alex savage.keep your parsers there.
we are clearing the trial and getting loot.GOAL ACHIEVED!
this is not a parsing competition group.
this is not optimal runs,this is a group to get loot.
it is faster to do the nidhogg with group that doesn't wipe that takes 9 minutes instead of 7 minutes than to go back to pf AND LOOK FOR 7 NEW PEOPLE OVER AND OVER AGAIN ONLY TO REPEAT THE SAME PATTERN!

STOP WITH THE DPS HOARING IN THE FARM GROUPS!
they have wasted days of my time
IF YOU WANT TO FARM WITH ALEX SAVAGE SOUL OF CREATOR DPS ILVL 275 FARM WITH YOUR DAMN STATIC!STOP JOINING MY FARM GROUPS AND DESTROYING THEM!READ THE PF!
it is total cancer

[Lan_Mantear]

While I understand and tend to agree with your statement.

Zurvan specifically is so broke that high dps actually allows you to skip so much of his mechanics that when you don't have high DPS general cross-party finder groups fail due to not knowing rudimentary soar mechanics. Mostly because they probably haven't run into it, with the exception of the last soar that the tank probably used limit break on.

Then add the fact that Cross-Party finder is a godsend for DPS, where they can literally just hop from one party to the next. With very little delay, the attitude have always been there, but was previously held in check with the vagueness of Duty Finder.

[Zigabar]

Unless someone is dying to simple mechanics or wiping the group, the parser readers tend to stay quiet in my farm groups. I think we need a Tales from PF thread now with Cross-Server Party Finder.

[dragonseth07]

Faster clears is a faster farm. I can see why someone would be unsatisfied with low numbers.

[Neophyte]

I won't stay in a niddhog group which fails multiple times on skipping towers. Are we in 3.3? This content is 8+ months old.

Especially with cross-server good players have a lot of groups to choose.

Also, one player complains about dps and then suddenly you have to look for seven other players?

Faster clears is a faster farm. I can see why someone would be unsatisfied with low numbers.

Mostly because of the hidden algorithm, which always contributes loot to the overall worst player.

Some people are tired of carrying... and if a 270 dps giving everything and still not skipping towers, then this is a carry group. Trade that 270 good player against an average and people start failing fang&claw or adds killing tanks... sometimes I do 25-30% of the dps in such groups. That is carrying.

[CookieMonsta]

i'm so tired of this,i start a farm party,we clear the trial,yes it takes 8 minutes over 6 minutes,some amazing dps parsing lovely individual inevitably goes:

Ummm, ex trials is the exact kind of content you need a parser lol. Theres a huge difference in DPS, you might kinda want to know who is slacking off. While I agree there are some who are a little too obsessed with their parse, its not the parser's fault. Its ur job as party leader to eliminate them if its hindering your farm rate.

[dragonseth07]

Oh! Here's an idea:

Just write "low DPS is okay" on your PF's, so people know what they're getting into.

You'll get plenty of people joining, lol.

[Alex_LoneWolf]

While I can understand that a faster clear is a faster farm, a clear is a clear still. It really depends on the circumstances in my opinion.

If it's the first couple of times in since the party started, then I don't see a reason for complaints about DPS as long as your clearing.

If this is like your 20th time in there since the group farmed, then maybe the party should work together to speed up the clears.

[Malzian]

Of course farm groups are obsessed with high DPS... They're farming to try and get something as fast as possible, so the faster they clear the faster they get what they want. If I'm farming for light and I know with good DPS I can get through X number of runs which will net me Y amount of light, anything less that that costs me. Say it's a 6 minute run... over an hour you can get 10 runs in. If it's 5 points per run then I can get 50 points in an hour. If the run takes even 1/3rd of the time longer you're losing 2 minutes per run. That means you maybe 7 runs per hour or 35 light. That's 15 light per hour loss for those extra 2 minutes a run. DPS is everything in a Farm group, it's what they're all about.

[Arutan]

I find it really sad how people NEED to skip soar. This fight is a joke, and they want to skip the only mecha that put the team in trouble. I wanted to farm Zurvan's bird but this fight is so boring that I don't feel the envy to do it.