Results 1 to 10 of 1541

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Kaedan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    1,891
    Character
    Kaedan Burkhardt
    World
    Atomos
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    I don't think BLU because he literally said at the JP fanfest that BLU won't be coming for a long time, and when it finally does..(then he explained his musing on it)

    But I think it will be SAM and something else. Hoping for DNC, could be anything!
    The only thing YP said about BLU being hard to implement or anything of the sort was back in 2014.
    (4)

  2. #2
    Player
    Lambdafish's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Ul-Dah
    Posts
    3,927
    Character
    Khuja'to Binbotaj
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    The only thing YP said about BLU being hard to implement or anything of the sort was back in 2014.
    Pretty sure he reiterated it as late as vegas (could be JP) fan fest 2016, though don't quote me on that or ask for source. It was an interview saying that they would not implement BLU until they found a way to fit the core identity of the job in an MMO setting, and that keeping the enemy skill learning aspect of the job is important, which he has admitted that they have not found a way to do that yet (who knows, could be a red herring, but it does seem weird)
    (3)
    Last edited by Lambdafish; 02-03-2017 at 08:40 AM.

  3. #3
    Player
    Kaedan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    1,891
    Character
    Kaedan Burkhardt
    World
    Atomos
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lambdafish View Post
    Pretty sure he reiterated it as late as vegas (could be JP) fan fest 2016, though don't quote me on that or ask for source. It was an interview saying that they would not implement BLU until they found a way to fit the core identity of the job in an MMO setting, and that keeping the enemy skill learning aspect of the job is important, which he has admitted that they have not found a way to do that yet (who knows, could be a red herring, but it does seem weird)

    What you're referring to here is the 2014 interview question for a Live Letter. Unfortunately, some dishonest or misinformed people are spreading the rumor it was recent.
    (3)

  4. #4
    Player
    Shippuu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Posts
    628
    Character
    Shippuu Nammuu
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    What you're referring to here is the 2014 interview question for a Live Letter. Unfortunately, some dishonest or misinformed people are spreading the rumor it was recent.
    The misinformed person here would be you because he absolutely did re-iterate the exact same idea as his 2014 statement regarding Blue Mage when he was on stage during his Naoki's Room segment in december during the JP Fanfest.

    Source, another source, and another.
    (2)

  5. #5
    Player
    Shougun's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    9,431
    Character
    Wubrant Drakesbane
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    The misinformed person here would be you because he absolutely did re-iterate the exact same idea as his 2014 statement regarding Blue Mage when he was on stage during his Naoki's Room segment in december during the JP Fanfest.

    Source, another source, and another.
    Could you find anything in English please?

    Google translate doesn't really give me anything that feels negative:
    Blue Mage 's learning is amazingly interesting as a collection - like play. I am thinking about playing on the field recently, I think that fighting battle with monster with Blue Mage solo, learning and increasing the action like increasing play will be fun. In the future, it is not a solo exclusive job, but I think that the blue mage is an ant in the standing position like "Monster Dr.".
    To me that reads "oooh blue mage is special, I think about running around by myself getting abilities - but in the future it will not be solo exclusive! I think of Blue Mage as "Doctor of monsters!""

    Sounds like he just talked about how cool Blue Mage is and said it won't be solo only even though he wants to have a lot of solo play. But yeah I'm translating google translate so some serious yolo


    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post

    Just FYI, I speak Japanese fluently... and the only "source" you linked where he even mentions BLU is the first link. And in there, he mentions NOTHING close to what he said in 2014. He talks about how Blue Mages are interesting because of how they defeat monsters to learn abilities, and how when they implement BLU in the future, it won't be a solo-only job because that wouldn't be interesting in an MMO, but it would be more akin to a "Monster Expert" class.
    Well I'm glad it read like I thought it did, calms myself that he isn't going to go toss it into the bin as "not a real job" job. Also felt quite good that Blue Mage will probably happen, doesn't really say when though so I'm not taking that as "now" just.. its not a no either.
    (1)
    Last edited by Shougun; 02-03-2017 at 11:08 AM.

  6. #6
    Player
    Kaedan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    1,891
    Character
    Kaedan Burkhardt
    World
    Atomos
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    The misinformed person here would be you because he absolutely did re-iterate the exact same idea as his 2014 statement regarding Blue Mage when he was on stage during his Naoki's Room segment in december during the JP Fanfest.

    Source, another source, and another.
    LMAO

    Now I know at least one of the people purposefully spreading misinformation.

    Just FYI, I speak Japanese fluently... and the only "source" you linked where he even mentions BLU is the first link. And in there, he mentions NOTHING close to what he said in 2014. He talks about how Blue Mages are interesting because of how they defeat monsters to learn abilities, and how when they implement BLU in the future, it won't be a solo-only job because that wouldn't be interesting in an MMO, but it would be more akin to a "Monster Expert" class.
    (9)

  7. #7
    Player
    Iromi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    2,059
    Character
    Tilla Eversong
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    LMAO

    Now I know at least one of the people purposefully spreading misinformation.

    Just FYI, I speak Japanese fluently... and the only "source" you linked where he even mentions BLU is the first link. And in there, he mentions NOTHING close to what he said in 2014. He talks about how Blue Mages are interesting because of how they defeat monsters to learn abilities, and how when they implement BLU in the future, it won't be a solo-only job because that wouldn't be interesting in an MMO, but it would be more akin to a "Monster Expert" class.
    I speak and read it fluently also. Took Japanese for over 16 years since I was a little kid...and I got a bit of different info then that outta it. Also the part where he spoke (not an interview or summary) is in the "Naoki Yoshida Room" segment of the paid stream. He absolutely said we won't be seeing it any time soon.
    (7)

  8. #8
    Player
    Kaedan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    1,891
    Character
    Kaedan Burkhardt
    World
    Atomos
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Iromi View Post
    I speak and read it fluently also. Took Japanese for over 16 years since I was a little kid...and I got a bit of different info then that outta it. Also the part where he spoke (not an interview or summary) is in the "Naoki Yoshida Room" segment of the paid stream. He absolutely said we won't be seeing it any time soon.
    First, if we're going to compare credentials, I've been speaking Japanese for 20 years and have been living in Japan for 8 years and my wife (who is Japanese) is the one I check with about the paraphrase I wrote above.

    I don't have access to the paid stream, but in the three articles Shippuu linked, there were no mentions of anything close to what he said in 2014. I can translate what he said in the first article for you and him if you'd like:

    "The collection playstyle of Blue Mage is incredibly interesting. I've been thinking I want to somehow have Blue Mages in the field, and thinking that the type of playstyle involving fighting monsters solo to learn abilities might not be that interesting. In the near future, I'm thinking it won't be a solo-only job [referencing his previous comments from 2014], but there will be a Blue Mage whose role will be more of a "Monster Expert" I think."

    Regardless of finer points of translation you might disagree with, nothing he says is at all similar to what he said in 2014. Nothing about it "not being for a long time" or "making it a solo-only class".
    (9)
    Last edited by Kaedan; 02-03-2017 at 01:44 PM.

  9. #9
    Player
    Shippuu's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Posts
    628
    Character
    Shippuu Nammuu
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    LMAO

    Now I know at least one of the people purposefully spreading misinformation.

    Just FYI, I speak Japanese fluently... and the only "source" you linked where he even mentions BLU is the first link. And in there, he mentions NOTHING close to what he said in 2014. He talks about how Blue Mages are interesting because of how they defeat monsters to learn abilities, and how when they implement BLU in the future, it won't be a solo-only job because that wouldn't be interesting in an MMO, but it would be more akin to a "Monster Expert" class.
    Well then you clearly don't speak Japanese as well as you think you do then because while the second article doesn't specify Blue Mage, it's still talking about the same moment during the panel, and I don't know how you didn't see 青魔道士(Blue Mage) in the third one either

    ・青魔道士はPTジョブとしてではなく、
    I have multiple articles saying he said his idea for Blue Mage wouldn't be PT based, and apparently one that said it will be PT based.
    (7)

  10. #10
    Player
    Kaedan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Posts
    1,891
    Character
    Kaedan Burkhardt
    World
    Atomos
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    While the second article doesn't specify Blue Mage, it's still talking about the same moment during the panel, and I don't know how you didn't see 青魔道士(Blue Mage) in the third one either
    I just rechecked the second article, and there was nothing more than a small blurb about NA players speculating about one of the new jobs being Blue Mage and how Yoshida thinks learning gameplay is interesting and was considering making it a solo-only class. Again, nothing about being the distant future, quite the opposite, the near future (将来的).

    The third article doesn't even quote Yoshida's words about Blue Mage, just paraphrases (technically, neither does the 2nd), and they even misquote the intended paraphrase. And again, even in the inaccurate paraphrase, it says nothing close to what was said in 2014.




    I have multiple articles saying he said his idea for Blue Mage wouldn't be PT based, and apparently one that said it will be PT based.
    No, you have one article quoting Yoshida's exact words that say that he's thinking it won't be solo-only but will change to more of a "Monster Expert", and you have other articles, one of which references YP's statements from 2014, and another which inaccurately paraphrases what Yoshida said in the interview where the first article makes the correct quote.
    (9)
    Last edited by Kaedan; 02-03-2017 at 01:43 PM.