So... that spiderman shirt... (new job tease)

[Lewtskie]

I must have gotten word of mouth mixed up with everything, so that's on me. And yeah, too many unknowns with the tweet, I've set that to the side.

There'd be no grudge held from me if there's only the two, only a little bit sad nothing new would be directly relating to Ala Mhigo. BLU and DNC, the popular targets, sound neat but they're far from my favorite jobs among the franchise. That's reserved for BST, which people have thrown out there too weirdly enough though that's among the most unlikely, and WAR which we have.

[Reynhart]

There'd be no grudge held from me if there's only the two, only a little bit sad nothing new would be directly relating to Ala Mhigo.

It is kind of sad, but in the end, I think that's a smart choice. Locking jobs behind story progression, although not a big deal for me, was heavily criticized in HW. By separating the lore for the jobs and the events of the MSQ, you ensure that your newly hyped toy will be available for everybody.

And it's weirdly fun to see "old" jobs being trendy again

[AmalonStar]

Just a few things I wanted to say after reading some of the newest posts.

I would need to look it up but I did hear back when hw was released that Yoshi had said doing 3 jobs was tough and didn't think they would do 3 jobs like that at once. Doesn't mean that they're only going to do do 2 jobs, with the ps3 version being dropped that could be one thing that would make it easier to do 3+ jobs for the expansion.

With Ala Mihigo we really do to know much aside from what you learn from the mnk quests. Monks were one side of the culture but they never said anything about the opposing side. Before the empire invaded if I recall right there were 2 opposing sides the monks being on the one side, the other could be a dnc or blu or any other job.

[Shippuu]

Just a few things I wanted to say after reading some of the newest posts.

I would need to look it up but I did hear back when hw was released that Yoshi had said doing 3 jobs was tough and didn't think they would do 3 jobs like that at once. Doesn't mean that they're only going to do do 2 jobs, with the ps3 version being dropped that could be one thing that would make it easier to do 3+ jobs for the expansion.

The only thing said about developing three jobs, was that Yoshida received feedback from the battle team that designing 3 jobs was "Something that they'd never want to do again, ever." and it was played for laughs. This is a far cry from him directly stating it was too difficult and that they would never do it again, only that he received complaints from the battle team over it. One also has to take into fact as mentioned above, they were also at least partially working on Ninja at around the same time as well.


These things, coupled with the fact Stormblood supposedly has an increased budget and is lacking some things that would take up asset development time at the least (no new race for example) means it should still be possible to deliver 3 jobs once again. On top of that, there was a comment from Yoshida during the 14 hour anniversary stream that there was a hint towards the number of new jobs in the Moonfire summer event, the likely allusion to there being 3 rangers, and thus 3 jobs.

[Kaedan]

Just a few things I wanted to say after reading some of the newest posts.

I would need to look it up but I did hear back when hw was released that Yoshi had said doing 3 jobs was tough and didn't think they would do 3 jobs like that at once. Doesn't mean that they're only going to do do 2 jobs, with the ps3 version being dropped that could be one thing that would make it easier to do 3+ jobs for the expansion.

With Ala Mihigo we really do to know much aside from what you learn from the mnk quests. Monks were one side of the culture but they never said anything about the opposing side. Before the empire invaded if I recall right there were 2 opposing sides the monks being on the one side, the other could be a dnc or blu or any other job.

The only thing I recall him saying they would never do again related to jobs was to release a job mid expansion like they did with Ninja.

[Fevelle]

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But what about his interview in Famitsu where Yoshi-P said the amount of jobs is related to the Rangers of last year's Moonfire Faire?

[Shippuu]

Exactly, though I will play devil's advocate say we already have some precedent of wasting the potential of Bard by mixing it with Ranger.

Not that I necessarily dislike the end result, I'm just thinking about what could have been.

I don't know, I'd argue that Bard in ffxiv is a positive example of what I'm talking about. Neither Bard nor Ranger have super distinct identities and visually what established style they have is pretty shared between them (tunics and feathered hats). FFXIV's bard is also a product of 1.0 which kind of played by slightly different rules.

It makes a lot more sense to combine ranger and bard, given they have a lot more overlap visually and mechanically from past games, as opposed to taking two very different jobs with very different visual identities and trying to cram them together.

[Firesped]

On march 2015, at PAX, the dev-team said that doing the three jobs for Heavensward was very difficult and they don't want to do the same.

This is my reasoning why the other job is not likely to be BLU. The amount of work BLU will require to make it how the players expect it to be requires an overhaul of the entire game database. Every monster would have to be modified to make abilities learn-able from them. I can imagine how the job would work. you would have base action types slots and you would be able to learn different monster ability to fill those slots. It won't have the customization as FFXI's BLU but you will get a job that can be configured to fill all roles. But probably limited to only playing one at a time with some cross over ability. meaning of the available monster abilities in a slot, some abilities are role locked. Also due to the fact that BLU can play all roles, when they release it, it would be the only job added in that expansion, for the point of job balance.

My reasoning for getting 2 jobs is right now we need a support job and a caster job to bring balance to all job roles. right now we have 3 tanks, 3 healers, 3 dps, 2 support, and 2 casters. sadly with 5 different roles, they really should rebuild parties to 5 light, 10 full. But I don't see that happening.

[GMERC]

This is my reasoning why the other job is not likely to be BLU. The amount of work BLU will require to make it how the players expect it to be requires an overhaul of the entire game database. Every monster would have to be modified to make abilities learn-able from them. I can imagine how the job would work. you would have base action types slots and you would be able to learn different monster ability to fill those slots. It won't have the customization as FFXI's BLU but you will get a job that can be configured to fill all roles. But probably limited to only playing one at a time with some cross over ability. meaning of the available monster abilities in a slot, some abilities are role locked. Also due to the fact that BLU can play all roles, when they release it, it would be the only job added in that expansion, for the point of job balance.

My reasoning for getting 2 jobs is right now we need a support job and a caster job to bring balance to all job roles. right now we have 3 tanks, 3 healers, 3 dps, 2 support, and 2 casters. sadly with 5 different roles, they really should rebuild parties to 5 light, 10 full. But I don't see that happening.

You are wildly overstating how relevant "customization" is to Blue Mage in the first place, which is to say it isn't at all.

Let me also say that Support literally is not a thing that exists. There is only Melee DPS, Shooter DPS, and Caster DPS.

[Iromi]

But what about his interview in Famitsu where Yoshi-P said the amount of jobs is related to the Rangers of last year's Moonfire Faire?

Yep, that would be 3....no? ^^