So... that spiderman shirt... (new job tease)

[Daegar]

My theory is that both SAM and BLU will be in Stormblood. As we know SE is releasing only two classes at the start of the expansion. I believe this will be BLU, I think the creators and SE are being clever and playing the fans so to speak with the reveal of SAM later in the expansion.

[IllyriaKnotfred]

My theory is that both SAM and BLU will be in Stormblood. As we know SE is releasing only two classes at the start of the expansion. I believe this will be BLU, I think the creators and SE are being clever and playing the fans so to speak with the reveal of SAM later in the expansion.

Yoshi has already gone on record long ago that there will never be a mid expansion job released (Ala Rogue/Ninja) again. It created a massive strain on the Dev team and he won't put them through it again. I don't have a source but I'm sure others remember him saying it as well.

Above and beyond that, Yoshi already mentioned that they are extremely ahead of schedule for 4.0, so why would they wait and release a job mid expansion? Just doesn't add up if you ask me.

[Lewtskie]

Dots

The issue was creating a job, which as Yoshi roughly gave an estimation took a deent amount of time to fully balance and conceptualize, this was a huge mistake on their part because doing that during 2.x took dev time away while working on the expansion.

The key thing is that during the first fanfest there were two silhouettes on the screen saying "New Jobs" later it was asked if those silhouettes were related to the number of jobs releasing. He could have easily said yes, and held his earlier stance on the subject, but he didn't. It's perplexing.

Could it be because they are well ahead of development of 4.0 post launch? With the new budget have they increased their team size to a point where side projects are now possible?

Devs are fickle and we have a history with Yoshi and Devs not sticking to exact things they say in the past. Anything's possible with them, that's what I've come to learn.

[ADVSS]

Could it be because they are well ahead of development of 4.0 post launch? With the new budget have they increased their team size to a point where side projects are now possible?

Devs are fickle and we have a history with Yoshi and Devs not sticking to exact things they say in the past. Anything's possible with them, that's what I've come to learn.

well yeah things like "RDM couldnt be implemented in this game" and among other things. Supposedly it takes a
year to make a new job" the samurai debate, however I'd conclude with statements in the past explaining why they decided to make DRK for HQ instead of SAM. Perhaps the job was pretty much complete, just needs some retooling, or whatever, so they got that almost done, now they had 2 years of HW to develop new jobs. At the least they could have 3 already imo and the budget helps too

Do I feel like it takes a full year to come up with a workable iconic FF job? I
ll actually leave that to debate, but for all purposes I feel like, most likely, we could see 3 even if one is implemented later(6 months). And you have to admit Nin I thought was probably better thought out and done, compared to some of the HW jobs.

[Reynhart]

The key thing is that during the first fanfest there were two silhouettes on the screen saying "New Jobs" later it was asked if those silhouettes were related to the number of jobs releasing.

Or they only showed two silhouettes because we only have two genders...
Considering there wasn't a "three silouhette" panel during HW first fanfest, why should we assume it is related ?

He could have easily said yes, and held his earlier stance on the subject, but he didn't.

Yoshi-P don't answer even trivial questions because he likes us to speculate, not because there is a secret meaning behind everything.

[Lewtskie]

Dots

There wasn't any silhouettes at the HW panel, so why not then and then why now? The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Not everything is a secret, but everything has the potential to hold one.

His previous stance was in-fact "only two jobs" so him only saying that during the fan fest questions would be him just stating what he already said. There's nothing gained from keeping people up in the air if he's stated previously where he stood on the subject.

Yoshi is a clever man, but he is not a man who aims to completely deceive. He's made promises he could not keep, and the backlash was severe. Fans are fickle. But he doesn't hate us, purely the opposite. If he can deliver to us more, than he wants that people to look forward to it, but he knows he can't do everything so he doesn't speak in definitives when it comes to releasing something; but he will say if he cannot. Not re-confirming his previous stance means he's going to try. But if he can't deliver then there is nothing people can explicitly throw back in his face. He could keep it purely a surprise, but as you said, he wants people to speculate, but not without reason.

[Reynhart]

There wasn't any silhouettes at the HW panel, so why not then and then why now?

Well, they won't use the same powerpoint for each expansion, now, will they ?

The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

Yet you think that the absence of a third silhouette is an evidence of absence of a third job.

His previous stance was in-fact "only two jobs"

"His" stance is not. The dev-team complained on that once, but we have to keep in mind that they had to work on three jobs...while creating a fourth one during 2.x. Which suprisingly match with Yoshi-P's actual stance of "We won't add a job mid-expansion again"

he wants people to speculate, but not without reason.

You can't say that, because it could be used to justify everything. For example, him not saying if the girl in red is a MNK or DNC would be a testimony of her being a DNC, because, if she was a MNK there would be no reason hiding. Or him not talking about the datamine is a testimony that SAM really is coming, since there would be no reason of not denying it.

Two things that also favor the idea that there will be three jobs.

It would make more sense for them to create a BLU/DNC hybrid. Both classes can be easily tied to ala mhigo.

Considering they confirmed that you ony need to be level 50 to unlock Red Mage, there's a high probability that the new jobs aren't tied to this city.

[Vydos]

Considering they confirmed that you ony need to be level 50 to unlock Red Mage, there's a high probability that the new jobs aren't tied to this city.

Very true. I'm only basing my thought assuming they'd want at least 1 job to tie in with the new expansion region. Astrologian was like -the- heavensward job because astrologians were already a thing before that. Even though none of us expected it to become an actual job.

[Lewtskie]

Well, they won't use the same powerpoint for each expansion, now, will they ?

Yet you think that the absence of a third silhouette is an evidence of absence of a third job.

The absence of evidence means anything is open, only when there is evidence of absence would there mean nothing exists, but whatever. There being only two silhouettes implies nothing, and implies anything. There's potentially any reason it can exist, when it didn't before. The fact they chose a background this time around, not that they used the same slide (I don't know why you automatically assume that) either is just space or reference to something. This is how speculation works. This is the basis of theorycrafting and how people discover and understand.

"His" stance is not. The dev-team complained on that once, but we have to keep in mind that they had to work on three jobs...while creating a fourth one during 2.x. Which suprisingly match with Yoshi-P's actual stance of "We won't add a job mid-expansion again"

He speaks for his team, but he also speaks for himself. If there was zero possibility that his team could not provide, he would say. But either his team can try, or he will try and get them to. Either works, but that he did not hold out on his previous statement means its up in the air again.

You can't say that, because it could be used to justify everything. For example, him not saying if the girl in red is a MNK or DNC would be a testimony of her being a DNC, because, if she was a MNK there would be no reason hiding. Or him not talking about the datamine is a testimony that SAM really is coming, since there would be no reason of not denying it.

You have to look for what's explicitly stated as yes or no. Time and time again he has said if something is not possible, or at least not yet. He has been very clear on those boundaries. You can say she's not MNK, but the implies only that she isn't a MNK, nothing else. It could mean she is a DNC, or it could mean she is something else. NPCs have their own thing and do not exist solely in the same boundaries as the player. But if he says she isn't a MNK, then you take that as an absolute. That means anything else is possible until proven otherwise.

You use a process of elimination, but only when the elimination is clear and concise. Until word is made from the same mouth the opposes the previous statement.

Considering they confirmed that you ony need to be level 50 to unlock Red Mage, there's a high probability that the new jobs aren't tied to this city.

It's not about the city, it's the culture. And its entirely possible to have a discipline of Ala Mhigan origin to make its way into Eorzea, if it didn't exist there already.