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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    This is literally the most accurate statement made here in this thread full of opinions. Thank you for this.
    It has a lot of questionable implications however.

    If your role is all that matters, it means that it is perfectly fine for a tank to stop doing attacking once aggro is established. It means that DPS have no obligation to use any of their support skills ever. And it says it's alright to go completely AFK as scholar if the fairy can handle the healing, because healing is your only responsibility and the bot can do that "with decent effect".

    I find such behavior undesirable and consequently cannot support the notion that ones role is all that matters. I do not care what the devs have in mind when they design content either - they also advised us to be careful with pulls in Xelphatol, so apparently they aren't the most connected with the reality of their game. And if healer DPS is not something the devs consider, the decision to lower the accuracy caps for casual content is truly baffling, considering nobody but healers has been affected by that change at all.

    Standing around and doing nothing productive - or worse, being actually AFK - IMO is not acceptable, whether someone's primary role is fulfilled in the process or not. Purposely not using out of role abilities IMO is a scumbag move as well - Imagine asking for mana song to salvage a rocky group and the bard just goes:"Nope, my role is to deal DPS and that reduces my DPS. We'll just wipe instead, git gut at your own role." Yeah no, that bard would rightfully be told off, but that's pretty much what the person you quoted said right there, including the git gut part even. I don't even...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    It has a lot of questionable implications however.
    There were no implications in Kosmos' statement, though I can understand how interpretations may differ. More than anything, perform your primary role properly before trying to perform anything secondary. The point about tanks not needing to continue attacking after establishing aggro is invalid as we all know it's not enough to just establish, but maintain aggro. That is why some of their weaponskills generate enmity, and why damage itself contributes. For DPS support, content is designed in such a way that if say, your DRG never uses Battle Litany, you can still complete it. If it were required, then that content would require a DRG be in the party, always. Or perhaps in the absence of a BRD for Mage's Ballad, healers still have Shroud/Aetherflow/Luminiferous Aether if and when needed.

    Semantics at best, I know. But fact remains healers don't HAVE to DPS. The community however has established it as above-basic level gameplay for healers, and good teamwork and etiquette besides. Still, performing your primary role PROPERLY comes first; if you can do that, or where said role is not applicable or needed (i.e. no one needs healing, or the enemy has no aggro table), then yes, deal damage. But healers - by the design and standard of content - do not HAVE to DPS.
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    Last edited by ThirdChild_ZKI; 01-13-2017 at 03:59 AM.