Stupid reason to report someone

[Sciwolf]

A good DPS offers utility. Eye for an Eye or Virus, for example, to aid in damage control.

and when was the last time a DPS got called out for not doing eye for an eye/ virus in a GUILDHEST?

Also, big news, healers have to do those too!!!!

[Zigabar]

and when was the last time a DPS got called out for not doing eye for an eye/ virus in a GUILDHEST?

Also, big news, healers have to do those too!!!!

Guildhest or no, your statement is still wrong. Good DPS don't just DPS.

yes because talking about korean server merges are much more interesting

I'd say that's a lot more interesting of a read than another healer DPS thread. But you would know that, if you actually read it.

[Sciwolf]

Guildhest or no, your statement is still wrong. Good DPS don't just DPS.

No one calls out dps for not being good in a guildhest. This kind of shit either happens to healers or tanks. Duty finder is infested with absolute garbage dps who have no idea how to do their rotations and no one gives a damn. But a less than perfect healer or tank and omg everyone loses their shit.

[Ama_Hamada]

No one calls out dps for not being good in a guildhest. This kind of shit either happens to healers or tanks. Duty finder is infested with absolute garbage dps who have no idea how to do their rotations and no one gives a damn. But a less than perfect healer or tank and omg everyone loses their shit.

DPS rarely get called out on anything, mostly people jump on the healer more then anything.

I was doing Nidhogg when it was new and we could not pass the DPS check because a black mage was worthless. Instead of calling them out, and before I had a chance to speak up, it was just vote abandoned

[Bourne_Endeavor]

and when was the last time a DPS got called out for not doing eye for an eye/ virus in a GUILDHEST?

Also, big news, healers have to do those too!!!!

It isn't their fault content outside Savage and Extreme primals is so piss easy, you generally don't notice a DPS cheesing mechanics or eating an aoe for positionals. I know full well my capabilities on Dragoon, and if I'm about to pull aggro on trash, I'm already looking to Keen Flurry, Bloodbath and Second Wind because if I do take that mob, I should be prepared to handle it.

The reason healers catch more slack is it's far more noticeable. A Ninja not using Goad isn't standing around doing nothing. Meanwhile, I have had Hullbreaker and Xelphatol runs where the healer literally jumped around the map because they had nothing to do. Ya tend to notice that more.

[Sciwolf]

It isn't their fault content outside Savage and Extreme primals is so piss easy, you generally don't notice a DPS cheesing mechanics or eating an aoe for positionals. I know full well my capabilities on Dragoon, and if I'm about to pull aggro on trash, I'm already looking to Keen Flurry, Bloodbath and Second Wind because if I do take that mob, I should be prepared to handle it.

The reason healers catch more slack is it's far more noticeable. A Ninja not using Goad isn't standing around doing nothing. Meanwhile, I have had Hullbreaker and Xelphatol runs where the healer literally jumped around the map because they had nothing to do. Ya tend to notice that more.

how about when the last boss on an i210 dungeon takes forever to die? Should the initial reaction be to blame the dps or the healer? Sure the healer is "standing around" but the primary DPS role is:
to DPS!

If you play a DRG or MNK with i240 + gear and need the SCH to help you DPS in an old 4 man dungeon , you need to be called out for it. But they never get called out. They always get a pass for facerolling.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

how about when the last boss on an i210 dungeon takes forever to die? Should the initial reaction be to blame the dps or the healer? Sue the healer is "standing around" but the primary DPS role is:
to DPS!

If you play a DRG or MNK with i250 gear and need the SCH to help you DPS , you need to be called out for it. But they never get called out. They always get a pass for facerolling.

It's taking forever to die because the tank pulled the room and you aren't spamming Holy, Gravity or DoTs + Bane. To emphasis that point, if there are six mobs on the tank and I clip all of them with Doom Spike, it'll net 960 potency; Holy will net 920. On a standard three pull, those numbers become 480 and 540, respectively. Assuming equal gear, you would out-DPS me if tanks pulled like the devs prefer. Fancy that.

Granted, this is, of course, an ideal situation. If the tank isn't rotating cooldowns, lacks proper gear or DPS are standing in AoEs, a healer shouldn't focus on damage. Nonetheless, their role is to mitigate. A dead mob is one who isn't dealing damage, thus it's a form of mitigation. People advocating for healers to DPS aren't saying do so above all else. We are arguing you do so when it's safe. "I'm not comfortable yet!" Isn't an excuse three months after The Creator releases. Don't queue for that content if you're not comfortable yet then. I didn't queue for Expert roulette until I practiced tanking and knew proper coldown management. Likewise on Dragoon. I googled the 60 rotation before even reaching 60 and adjusting to it as I leveled. Whenever I do pull from an undergeared tank, I don't whine about it. I pop Keen Flurry and tank it myself or Elusive Jump to drop aggro.

And believe me, I would call a Monk or Dragoon who couldn't pull 500 DPS. Alas, we're not allowed to talk about parses in-game. So unless I notice them messing up the rotation or they die frequently, I can't say anything.