Stupid reason to report someone

[AsahinaMyLove]

Healer = Healer! o_O

Whats next? People asking DPS-classes to just heal themself with Potions or pretty weak heal spells by cross-skills? lol

In case some1 dares to mock me with that "Do dps, healer!" insult, I will just say: one of these: o;
"Why? Is your own DPS THAT low?"
"Ok, then you heal from now on!"

I wouldnt be surprised if Cleric Stance will get locked inside synched runs, someday, so the dramas about it ends! o_o

[Cynfael]

Healer = Healer! o_O

Whats next? People asking DPS-classes to just heal themself with Potions or pretty weak heal spells by cross-skills? lol

No, but that's because it's undesirable for DPS to waste potion CDs and GCDs on healing.

There are two main reasons why anyone cares about healers dealing damage:

1. Healers are actually decent at DPS, while the DPS role is horrible at healing and should not be attempting it instead of attacking.
2. Skilled healers need to cast very few heals to fill their primary role in most content and with most groups. Bad healers will stand there and spam Cure etc., but good ones know when the damage is coming and which skills will keep the party safe with the fewest GCDs and the least mana consumed. These healers have abundant time to weave in DPS unless the party is artificially inflating the healing requirement by being terrible.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

Healer = Healer! o_O

Whats next? People asking DPS-classes to just heal themself with Potions or pretty weak heal spells by cross-skills? lol

In case some1 dares to mock me with that "Do dps, healer!" insult, I will just say: one of these: o;
"Why? Is your own DPS THAT low?"
"Ok, then you heal from now on!"

I wouldnt be surprised if Cleric Stance will get locked inside synched runs, someday, so the dramas about it ends! o_o

This is just being willfully obtuse. Someone asking you to DPS wants the run to go faster. No DPS can make up for an additional 920 potency on a six mob pull.

You wouldn't enjoy the agonizingly long queues. Unless dungeon difficulty increases, many people wouldn't play healers without Cleric. Part of the reason FFXIV went in this direction is to get more people to try healers.

[Vidu]

In case some1 dares to mock me with that "Do dps, healer!" insult, I will just say: one of these: o;
"Why? Is your own DPS THAT low?"
"Ok, then you heal from now on!"

I wouldnt be surprised if Cleric Stance will get locked inside synched runs, someday, so the dramas about it ends! o_o

I'm genuily curious now: What is your reply to a friendly suggestion like this [coming from your well geared tank in an expert dungeon]:

"Hey, I'm not taking that much damage and I wont die to quickly! So you can actually hop into Cleric Stance and help the DPS a little to speed the run up!"

What if someone told you "Hey, you should do this to improve the way you're playing!"
(because no, not using half of your skills and doing nothing for relativly large amounts of time cant be the best way to play your class)

I totally understand that one might not feel comfortable in a new duty etc. etc. - but... being a level 60 healer that argument doesnt really count anymore, so its down to your CHOICE to play bad. Yes, I consider it bad when you only do the bare minimum of whats asked of you - I could tank using only flash. One skill. Not more. And I would still be fullfilling my "role" as a tank - without dealing any damage at all. I could flash 7 times, be oom but have aggro for the rest of my days and just sit down then, wait for the dps to kill the mobs.

I do apologise when I came off rude before (rough day, silly excuse, I know - not the best mood to responed to a topic like this...) but I really, really dont understand why someone who actually seems to know better chooses NOT to improve themselves and be simply a bad player... So if anyone could explain to me why they choose not to heal without claiming to feel "insecure" in content they've run a dozens of times (...and 60 levels of learning in their pocket... I mean... havent you learned anything while leveling up?) or roleplay (which should never be a reason not to play to the best of your abilities in matched content) I'd be grateful...

[Isala]

Whats next? People asking DPS-classes to just heal themself with Potions or pretty weak heal spells by cross-skills? lol

Considering the sheer quantity of HQ Max Potions coming from PotD, and the fact that they can be used oGCD? YES. If you eat an AoE to push DPS, nom a Potion so we can ALL keep DPSing. It's just common courtesy. Or, in the case of BLM, just pop your wall/ward for whatever you plan to eat. Or, melee/BRD, Second Wind, Bloodbath if you have it, stay at full HP regardless.

These are all things GOOD players do. Which is why you never actually see it, or expect it, with the DF crowd. Your job, regardless of role, is to make each instance as painless and quick as possible for the other 3/7/23 players. To do otherwise is rude and selfish.

[DaikiKiyoshi]

Considering the sheer quantity of HQ Max Potions coming from PotD, and the fact that they can be used oGCD? YES. If you eat an AoE to push DPS, nom a Potion so we can ALL keep DPSing. It's just common courtesy. Or, in the case of BLM, just pop your wall/ward for whatever you plan to eat. Or, melee/BRD, Second Wind, Bloodbath if you have it, stay at full HP regardless.

These are all things GOOD players do. Which is why you never actually see it, or expect it, with the DF crowd. Your job, regardless of role, is to make each instance as painless and quick as possible for the other 3/7/23 players. To do otherwise is rude and selfish.

Respectfully I disagree. Personally I never carry or use potions, maybe ethers. But who is the high authority who decided our "job" is to get every instance over with as quickly as possible? The posters on these forums? Lol. I want to savor my runs. Not rush through them. I want to relax, not stress out that I may not be pushing out that extra 0.0000023% dps or making the healers job 0.00005% easier. (Numbers are sarcasm but you get my point.) These forums hardly represent the majority of players and most I run into in my average daily DF runs don't care if your Dps are using ethers/potions/ healers are dpsing. To your average player that just wants to run and have fun, relaxing playing the game, they dont care about this stuff. At least not enough to mention it in the chat (in my personal experience and from what I've heard from friends who also play the game).

[Watachy]

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How can you savor the exact same run everyday ?
I mean at the begining ok, why not. After a certain amount of time in the patch, doing a 20+ min expert run is just a pain.

[Moomba33]

How can you savor the exact same run everyday ?
I mean at the begining ok, why not. After a certain amount of time in the patch, doing a 20+ min expert run is just a pain.

Could be a playstyle thing. A 20 minute Expert Roulette sounds fine to me but it's been over a month since I've run that roulette. Even back when I did do it I wouldn't go more than a couple of times a week to avoid being burned out on the dungeons.

As for Healer dps it really seems like a bigger deal on the forums than in the game. In my time playing I've only had one group tell me not to dps while I was healing and in that case I had queued with the tank so we just assured the other players that we were a team and knew what we could handle.
I can't recall ever seeing a non dpsing healer insulted. The only one I remember bothering me was one that spent most of the pull jumping in a circle then complained that they were bored since I as the tank wasn't taking much damage.

[DaikiKiyoshi]

How can you savor the exact same run everyday ?
I mean at the begining ok, why not. After a certain amount of time in the patch, doing a 20+ min expert run is just a pain.

As Moomba33 said, it is indeed a play style thing. In recent days I've found I get more enjoyment out of running the content for the sake of running it rather than running it as fast as possible for the tomes / other rewards. We will get showered in free tomes right before 4.0 anyway so why rush?

[Joeking]

I would say its only fair to expect healers to DPS, if and when they can see the numbers the DPS are actually pulling and call them out without getting banned. Till then no one can expect anyone to do anything as it has been stated on these boards many times. Playstyle is non bannable. If you want a healer that DPS's you play can change your class and be a healer who DPS's or Make your own party with people who have the same "Playstyle" as you.

SO IF I USE RAID FINDER AND I'M AN ICE ONLY BLACK MAGE DEAL WITH IT!!!!!