@Naoki Yoshida-> Make Samurai a Tank class!

[Xlantaa]

YOu can make any argument you want. But there is two of them who simly not.


- "We don't need more tanks/more sword wielding tanks". Why not? It is like said "we don't need more DPS". Plus, peopel is asking for RED MAGE as tank. They uses swords too.

- "We want RED MAGE as tank": It makes 0 sense. It is even less logic than Samurai tank. Every new tank class must be "compatible" with the old fending gear. SAM looks better with this than RED MAGE.

You can repeat this all you want, but won't be true, no mmater who much insist.

Now, there are 2 kinds of samurai. The heavy armorer historical samurai who where cruel and sadistic warlords and follow a strict code, or the wanabe anime light armor/cloth samurai who uses katana with 1 hand and break everything with a Sakura flower flowing in the air.

Ssss. be honest. People want a katana class for DPS, don't care about SAMURAI. I am honest. I love tanking and I like katanas. I won't lie to myself. I want katana wielding tank class. They can call him whatever they want, Shogun, Samurai or "Guy with the katana".

And, you know, Samurai are know by the use of the Yumi (bow), not the katana.

By the way. His role is setted already. Yoshi and his team probalby aldeady decide how wil lbe.

[Tint]

"whe dont have a sword dps, or tanks have already a 2 hands sword job" when you have RDM saying "hi im here, i can be a cool sword dps too, j-just love me " but no, is "SAM dps or riot"

if i am correctly Red Mage uses a rapier, not a "real" sword. so, nope, i would never love Red Mage if i wanted a SWORDfighter. red mage is... well, a mage with a rapier.

tanks already have a one handed sword (paladin) and a two handed sword (dark knight). why not give DDs a one handed "sword" with red mage and a two handed sword with samurai? also do we really need a fourth slashing weapon on the tank side? i would like to see the next tank uses a hammer o.o/

[shao32]

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depend of the game, red mage apears in many ff games using many types of weapons, in most of the they use a sword or a cimatar and other like ff tactics use a rapier, thats depend of how you look it and what type of sword SE want to add to RDM.

for my point of view if SE add SAM as tank i think is pretty fair add RDM with a sword instead of a rapier.

slashing, blunt or pearcing damage means nothing in the game excep how you interact with the other jobs, add a blunt damage tank means tie it to a monk for damage except they make it have they own blunt resistance down with cant stack or directly make it stack but is the same, that make that tank need to go with monk alwais to get that extra damage.

[SpookyGhost]

@Naoki Yoshida-> Make Samurai a Tank class!

pls not another sword tank

- "We don't need more tanks/more sword wielding tanks". Why not? It is like said "we don't need more DPS". Plus, peopel is asking for RED MAGE as tank. They uses swords too.

No, it's not, at all. It's like if there were currently 3 DPS total, 2 of which had swords, 1 of which had a different weapon and instead of adding another job that uses a different weapon that isn't a sword... you added another sword wielder. That's really boring. If I wanted to wield a sword as a tank I already have 2 options, I have 0 options for any other weapon as a tank except axe. Even a sword wielding DPS would be okay, because at least it's a sword wielder that goes into another role that isn't tank. I also don't like RDM as a tank unless they gave it a different weapon, especially since we already have DRK which currently fills the mix between magic and physical.

[Xlantaa]

if i am correctly Red Mage uses a rapier, not a "real" sword. so, nope, i would never love Red Mage if i wanted a SWORDfighter. red mage is... well, a mage with a rapier.

tanks already have a one handed sword (paladin) and a two handed sword (dark knight). why not give DDs a one handed "sword" with red mage and a two handed sword with samurai? also do we really need a fourth slashing weapon on the tank side? i would like to see the next tank uses a hammer o.o/

Red Mages uses all kind of short and long sword. Rapier is just one of the weapons they use. Red mage uses similar weapons to paladin, except heavy shields and heavy swords. Don't think only on the damn FFXI, think on all FF. In some FF they even use canes and shields.

[Nolaie]

people still want more slashing jobs? this game needs more Blunt classes currently monk is the only class who uses blunt but then you have dragoon with piercing and you have 2 ranged classes who use piercing which makes dragoon a very strong class since it buffs the dps of the other 2 ranged classes and still having strong dmg party buffs while monk brings pretty much nothing other than a mantra and int reduction when you can still have a DRK giving you that so what SE needs to do is either rework the slashing/blunt/piercing mechanics and make each class buffs its own damage only/working only on melees or add more blunt classes and adding more slashing jobs will just buff warriors more when they are already strong

[Shippuu]

Visions of SAM wearing this make me cringe. Besides, SAM would make the perfect DPS to share medium weight Maiming gear with DRG.

I love when people try to bring this up as if it's any kind of reasonable argument against SAM's being tanks. I mean, for starters, this didn't stop SE from putting SAM in FFXI



I mean, I don't see you making a complaint thread because monks and ninjas wear such iconic and thematically fitting gear like this in FFXIV:






Then the hilarity that you go on to say they'd be perfect in DRG gear is just the wonderful icing on the cake of your ridiculous argument. Cause DRG gear is so much better.




That's not even touching the fact that the vast majority of DRG gear, especially Heavensward gear, shares it's appearance with Fending sets. So if tank gear is too "cringey" for SAM to wear, then so is DRG gear.

[Evangela]

No, tank.

You already have Dark Knight. It doesn't matter what color the punching bag is. You're there to take damages.

[Shippuu]

if i am correctly Red Mage uses a rapier, not a "real" sword.

And there it is, now you're moving goalposts here. A rapier is a "real" sword just as much as any other form of sword. People clamor for a "Sword dps" but in reality they don't want a sword dps, they want SAM specifically and it's disingenuous for them to say they want a sword DPS. Once you point out that things like most Ninja weapons classify as swords, or that Red Mage is very likely going to be the next DPS job and they use swords, then the excuses start flowing just like this.

1) As long as it's not that dumb "armored shogun" stereotype, I don't really care what role it is (probably DPS).

The "armored shogun" archetype is exactly the archetype of samurai throughout virtually every Final Fantasy game. The instances where there's samurai-like characters that are not this archetype are decidedly NOT referred to as Samurai. To implement a Final Fantasy Samurai and not have it wear it's iconic armor/helmet would be a disservice to Final Fantasy fans.

2) Who said we're getting three jobs? Because a) there's been no official statement saying that there would be three jobs

I'm not seeing three silhouettes there. Maybe it could be just a placeholder, or maybe devs are placing quality over quantity, who knows....

It was hinted during the 14 hour broadcast that there would be 3 jobs added in Stormblood (Relating the number of jobs being added to the Summer event which featured 3 rangers/sentai. As for the silhouettes, Yoshida answered this in an interview with Famitsu after the NA fanfest this year that the silhouettes are not representative of the number of jobs being added in Stormblood.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

people still want more slashing jobs? this game needs more Blunt classes currently monk is the only class who uses blunt but then you have dragoon with piercing and you have 2 ranged classes who use piercing which makes dragoon a very strong class since it buffs the dps of the other 2 ranged classes and still having strong dmg party buffs while monk brings pretty much nothing other than a mantra and int reduction when you can still have a DRK giving you that so what SE needs to do is either rework the slashing/blunt/piercing mechanics and make each class buffs its own damage only/working only on melees or add more blunt classes and adding more slashing jobs will just buff warriors more when they are already strong

Technically, casters use blunt weapons too.