Geomancer vs Blue Mage

[Rubieus]

I like what you gotta say OP however no class "has" to use any specific weapon. Sure sure, you might want them to on account to it being part of what the class represents. However, aside from very specific circumstances IE: Paladin (sword and board) Archer (bow/crossbow) Gunblade Specialist (gunblade) and Monk (although they could have used a staff, double sticks or kamas >.>) All of our current or future jobs (sans the ones I just wrote) could pretty much use any weapon under the sun, provided they retained their appropriate class/job abilities. Just to list a few ideas
WHM: could have used elemental crystals / orbs
blm: orbs, ceremonial dagger, tomes
summoner: ceremonial dagger, minions (ie Lulu except she was a blm >.>)
Gladiator: any one handed weapon, dual wield optional.
Marauder: any two handed weapon, Great (axe,hammer,sword,club)
Dark knight: Great sword, scythe, curved blade of scarylooking.
Dragoon: any polearm
Machinist: guns? really? I was thinking wrench like Cid in FFIV could have made all kinds of contraptions
I think you get my meaning.

To conclude: any future jobs, be it BlU, DNC, GEO or RDM should not be defined by their weapon, but by their mechanics. The weapon of choice should enhance the job. not limit it.

[Morningstar1337]

To conclude: any future jobs, be it BlU, DNC, GEO or RDM should not be defined by their weapon, but by their mechanics. The weapon of choice should enhance the job. not limit it.

Problem is that the game has made it so that the Weapon is the core of the Base Class( and by extension the Job)'s identity. And so any new Jobs would have to equip a specific type of weapon (and few types, such as swords have the diversity needed to get away with having multiple subtypes) either out of Grandfather Clause, a desire to make sure the game won't get confused by one weapon having 2 Soulstones and no Base class to default too, or possible a desire to see if the devs can make get certain weapons to certain Jobs that might not be the one fans associate the weapon with (plus I think they made said method a selling point of 2.0). Also I'm sure Rapiers for RDMs are the one thing most people can agree on.

[Rubieus]

Also I'm sure Rapiers for RDMs are the one thing most people can agree on.

While that is true, 4.0 has been said it will shake things up. Also unless RDM is a melee DD or a tank (trinity) a rapier on a caster.. is askin to a whip on a tank. (Fencer/duelist could keep the rapier as a DD/evasion parry tank just sayin)

[Kazrah]

While that is true, 4.0 has been said it will shake things up. Also unless RDM is a melee DD or a tank (trinity) a rapier on a caster.. is askin to a whip on a tank. (Fencer/duelist could keep the rapier as a DD/evasion parry tank just sayin)

Rapier makes perfect sense for a spellcaster. Flick of of a fencing foil, and off goes a spell. In that regard, it's no different than a simple magic wand, and when you think about it, rapiers weren't really designed for pitched battles anyway. They were meant more for aesthetics and games for nobles rather than being tools of actual warfare. No one on a battlefield ever died from a rapier. Bigger swords, axes, knives, and spears; but not rapiers.

Back to the main topic, yes to a bell for Geomancer, but not sure about dual sabers for Blue Mage since dual-wielding has traditionally been the Ninja thing.

[Rubieus]

No one on a battlefield ever died from a rapier.

Last time I checked, no one ever died from a book or a twig either but we still have ACN and CNJ running around. As I said before, make the class and all its mechanics, then find a suitable weapon that fits. Not the other way around. A caster RDM is not the classic FF Redmage, and since the trinity exists, RDM is 2/3 caster which puts it as either a caster DD or caster healer. Giving it a rapier would only muddle it. As other more melee focused jobs could actually use a rapier as their wpn of choice. I'd like to see RDM as a class that could be all 3 but it wont happen, can't happen unless they have 3 RDM job stones. each one granting a whole set of skills based on the trinity. Can't swap them out in dungeons for obvious reasons.

Blue Mages doesn't need scimitars/sabers/curved swords there has been plenty of instances where they had custom weapons based on the character. Which is my point.

[Kazrah]

Last time I checked, no one ever died from a book or a twig either but we still have ACN and CNJ running around.

Faulty comparison, as those classes aren't hitting things with said book or twig.

This is a game where weapons define the job, and that's something we need to factor in and accept.