Making Jobs Rotationally Easier in 4.0

[Shurrikhan]

possibly they can bake in damage buffs with rotations, ie disembowel in the ct combo etc. make dancing edge the secon part of aoelian, idk.
to the drg tanking lost city, i had a similar experience on my monk, when a tank left i ended up tanking the entire dungeon by spamming aoes uand such, it wasnt easy but it was managable. it kind of sucks that potd has taught us that tanks are useful only if a healer is present, otherwise another dps is better

Wait what? Disembowel IS the second part of the CT combo, and making Dancing Edge the second part of Aeolian Edge (replacing Gust Blade) would cheese almost all rotational thought in NIN dps.

And what sucks about finding a new meta for your irregular conditions (killing it before it reaches you, split tanking, and kiting, in the case of 4-DPS PotD)? I prefer to be able to the situation and make something new and interesting out of it than to just sit hesitant because you don't have your role quota.

(And heck, I rather enjoy Monk tanking, especially if I don't have to worry about any else's positional dps. If there's another melee with me... then I typically prefer Dragoon for tanking on a DPS class, or just having the party gradually figure out how to split tank and make the most out of Cure III and HoTs.)

I disagree. It's not even the meta that is wrong. It's the players' skill and mentality.

That. Exactly that.
And it's not even just the dps people fail to figure out. Kiting? Covering for squishier members? Mob gathering? Stunning key targets? oGCD debuffs? Tracking allied CDs? Not so much.
Hell, soft-swap tanking to keep up CD coverage on boss strikes? Nope; would rather dedicate an OT to wasting their toolkit or, at best, spending it on triple Fell Cleaves.

Very true. And having played DRG/BRD/BLM it is great fun calling them out (especially the bards... they have support but often refuse to use it).

Admittedly, I'm less likely to use it until my opener is done if I can't use it pre-pull (see no-countdown pulls) and there combined magic damage is considerably less than mine. In a heavy caster comp, though, I'd happily repop it on a third bar of mana to sync with their cooldowns if need be. Just a matter of payoff vs. butthurt (from tanks running from the edge of the arena, without prior indication, pulling the moment the last guy enters the room).