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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    On a different note, the Ascians are down 4 memebers, Mitron (killed by Arbert and his band), Lahabrea (Killed by Thordian), Nabriales and Igeyohrm (killed by us).
    I haven't made it all the way through the book yet, so just drop a citation on (and ignore) me if I'm just mistaken here, but: Are we sure that vanquished means killed in this case? The word doesn't always mean "killed", just "defeated" or "overcome" in any way.

    We saw Arbert wielding a blade of light in the aetherial sea, as we did against Lahabrea; yet that only cast him out of Thancred and destroyed a dark crystal. Mitron might still be out there sans a vessel of the First and some wasted time.

    Quote Originally Posted by DE-Roxas View Post
    This does not confirm Gaius' death! *sob sob*
    It feels wrong, but until I find a place that the book is wrong in a different assumption, I have to accept it as an extraordinary heavy weight on the scales of probability... bummed, though I am.

    Quote Originally Posted by StarDrake View Post
    No, it goes even beyond that - the confusion about the gender of Nael is in the original Japanese too.
    Never mind the two male-explicit pronouns in Japanese ("What if the Lodestone was deliberate misinformation? And surely Gaius didn't know better if Eula was hiding it.") or that the JP-built model was male in the DATs and had a male voice pack ("What if Eula was wearing armor built for a man and faking a deeper voice?") or that Yoshida-san himself said "always man" when asked in person at Fan Fest I ("What if he was just trying to cover the mistakes with some consistency that the lore book has negated the need?") or that Rise and Fall of the White Raven was considered accurate by the lore team in its day despite it needing an update now ("What if ... Ascians?") or that other things have changed, too, such as Bradamante's lore ("What if the Lodestone was just always wrong? It said the spear was said to be named for someone Darnus slew; it made no promises.")

    I, for one, think we should just take the Encyclopaedia Eorzea as a gift and forsake everything else. What was the purpose of debate? To find the Truth. Here it is, in black and white (or black and parchment, I guess). Is it possible that a chunk of it is a masterful post hoc clean-up? Sure. Are some development stitches showing? Sure seems like it. But it's done. There it is: Truth.

    I'm takin' it.
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