Lore Book Revelations

[Belhi]

It seems very unlikely. For starters all the relic weapons are as the name implies, relics. Antiques, old. The Gae Bolg Estinein uses was likely made more recently.

Plus a lot of the relics seemed to had been mass produced in their heydey anyway like the Stardust Rods.

The Lore book, that calls Estinien's weapon Gae Bolg, seems to describe it as a holy relic. It would seem strange to have two relics with the same name and the same appearance. That would just be confusing.

It feels wrong, but until I find a place that the book is wrong in a different assumption, I have to accept it as an extraordinary heavy weight on the scales of probability... bummed, though I am.

I get why people are such big fans of Gaius but I don't see why people feel him actually being dead is wrong. Infact it's very believable. The guy would probably be 60 by now. Let him go guys.... He has had his run.

[Balipu]

or that other things have changed, too, such as Bradamante's lore ("What if the Lodestone was just always wrong? It said the spear was said to be named for someone Darnus slew; it made no promises.")

How was it worded actually? Did it say someone Darnus slew, or did it say Bradamante was the spear's first victim? The latter would be true from a certain point of view.

By the way I don't think we should overthink Rise of the White Raven that much. Everyone ingame believed Nael to be male. Mostly because Nael really was male. Emphasis on WAS. What makes the switch so perfect that after shaking off Bahamut's tempering, Eula is confused about being in a body not her own. We believed the confusion is because Nael turned into a woman but actually her original female body was replaced by a fake female body constructed by Bahamut. It really wasn't her own.
I wonder with the Garleans back in the limelight in Stormblood, will we learn more about Eula or perhaps the real Nael.

[Anonymoose]

How was it worded actually?

その背に負いしは、過去に殺めし乙女の名を持つガンハルバード「ブラダマンテ」。

Bradamante—a gunhalberd said to be named for a warrior maiden he slew.

Die Kanonenhellebarde auf seinem Rücken trug den Namen eines jungen Mädchens, mit dessen Blut er sie zuerst besudelte — Bradamante.

Son arme, une hallebarde revolver, est appelée « Bradamante », le nom d'une jeune fille qu'il aurait tuée.

JP seems vaguer than the rest; "Carried on the back, the gunhalberd Bradamante possesses the name of a maiden killed in the past." I think that's how to read it, but I can't really tell if nuances and context imply that she was killed by someone other than herself. Granted, if that was the case, it doesn't look like anybody was told or ever corrected. EN says he killed her, FR says he killed her, DE says her blood was the first with which he sullied his blade, I think?

[Cilia]

Wait a sec.... If Estinien is using Gae Blog... does that mean mine was a fake!?!?!

If I recall rightly, when you go to have Gerolt make the Gae Bolg, he sarcastically asks you why you don't just go have Ishgard make you one. I was under the impression that it's a pretty common weapon among Dragoons - or at least Azure Dragoons, since running off memory I believe Haldrath also had one - so Estinien having Gae Bolg was hardly surprising. It's like a mark of mastery for Dragoons, so to speak.

All the relics are replicas anyway. It's not until you start powering it up that it matches the weapon of legend, and even then the Gae Bolg's ultimate form is an entirely different weapon (Longinus), so...

[Anonymoose]

I get why people are such big fans of Gaius but I don't see why people feel him actually being dead is wrong. Infact it's very believable. The guy would probably be 60 by now. Let him go guys.... He has had his run.

I meant that something feels subjectively, internally amiss; an intangible hesitation when looking at the big picture. Not to parrot my Griffin posts again and again, but of course it's believable that someone standing in the middle of a bunch of explosions is probably dead. The scales were always weighted pretty heavily against him coming back, and I'm willing to let him go for the lore book's sake.

It's just ... something about it makes my brain itch (and probably for no good reason).

If I recall rightly...

Pretty sure you do. Even the trailer dragoons and quest NPCs have Gae Bolgs, iirc.
It, and the Drachen equipment, seem to be standardized Knight Dragoon equipment.

On another topic...

I'm seeing mentions of Nanamo's parents and I can't tell if Sasabal or Sasabaru is the mistaken English variant of the name. Sasabal Ul Sisibal is from way back in 1.0, whereas Sasabaru has been seen more recently ... but I didn't even need to go back that far. As of 3.4, English and French don't even agree on Sasabal Ul Sisibal vs. Sasabaru on the Loyal Pleco.

[Powe]

Btw is there a chart depecting the order of voidsent? I've been wondering where this freakling tier that's been used to describe voidsent is.

[Belhi]

The Lore book says this:

"The Holy See bestowed the legendary spear Gae Bolg upon Estinien after he was awarded the title of Azure Dragoon. However, when he was possessed by the Shade of Nidhoog, the spear was twisted and transformed by the great wyrm's magicks. Upon Estinien's disappearance from the infirmary, it was discovered that Gae Bolg too, had vanished."

'The legendary spear Gae Bolg' sounds like its refering to a specific weapon rather than a generally used Dragoon weapon.

Of course I could just be reading too much into how the thing is phrased.

Edit: Oh! Carvallain was the heir to House Durendaire. He just hated the role and pretended to be a bannerman so he could travel. When he was taken prisoner by pirates he lept at the chance to be recruited by the pirates.

So does that make him Jannequinard's older brother?

Biggs and Wedge were from the lowest caste in Garlemald being commoners in annexed Garlean territories and were conscripted into Garlemald's armies. They deserted and fled to Eorzea to defect. There names Biggs and Wedge are actually alias's they use to keep the identities of their families who still live in Garlemald hidden.

It sounds like people without citizenship in Garlean territories have little to no rights.

[Anonymoose]

Of course I could just be reading too much into how the thing is phrased.

When all else fails, I turn back to the Lodestone entries from 2012.

There is a custom still observed in Ishgard today which ordains that the Holy See bestow a polearm dubbed Gae Bolg upon any lancer who ascends to the station of dragoon. Exactly how his weapon is forged remains a mystery, as the very few highland smiths who create them are sworn to keep their methods secret. All that is known is that the bones of dragons slain in the name of Halone are worked into both haft and head, achieving an unmatched balance between lightness and strength.

Oh! Carvallain was the heir to House Durendaire. <...> So does that make him Jannequinard's older brother?

There's even a little hint about it in the Astrologian storyline about him being the thir-...SECOND son of the family.

Rocl some-the-hells-how prized that conclusion out back in the 2.0 cycle (granted, as headcanon at the time). Even before his original post about it here in the forums, we'd joked about it while looking for support. It was a serious [Oh, gods damn it.] moment when I walked into western Coerthas at 3.0 launch and there was Gorgagne Mills.

[Theodric]

It sounds like people without citizenship in Garlean territories have little to no rights.

That doesn't sound all that different to Eorzea given the state of places such as the Brume and Pearl Lane. Interestingly enough the best route of of both places is similar to what Garlemald is often criticised for: conscription. It's just less forced in Eorzea's case.

[Writer]

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Ironic that Yda works in Gridania for the Scions...