A12 savage World first 3 days after patch

[Pasquale]

How many of you using the new crafted iLvL250 gear?

Some with half set some with no pieces , our mt isnt even 240

[Lunafreya]

People definitely have the right to be sad or disappointed/worried about this given that SE gave us a whole new set of tomes to grind. Player skill > gear, yes but the fact lore was uncapped for a new tomestone when people already cleared a12s is worrying. Listen for a sec..... this means no savage raids until 4.0. The community will not be ok with this.

[Pasquale]

People definitely have the right to be sad or disappointed/worried about this given that SE gave us a whole new set of tomes to grind. Player skill > gear, yes but the fact lore was uncapped for a new tomestone when people already cleared a12s is worrying. Listen for a sec..... this means no savage raids until 4.0. The community will not be ok with this.

That's another fact.. 270 gears have no sense .. If the " hardest " contemt can be cleared with the previous patch equip i really can't see any sense on this

[Hyrist]

Some with half set some with no pieces , our mt isnt even 240

Yet you're capped off.

For those that are doomsaying this, remember the opposite happened for Gordius and we've still not recovered the raid scene.

I'm not going to explain my perspective on this at length, like I usually would. This is mainly due to the fact that my feelings largely mirror that of Yoshi-p's. When you get bored, more on, come back. The thought that highest tier combat should be your sole provider of content ... is fairly indignant of the majority base.

It's not that this is the ONLY thing hardcore players have. The have the rest of the game, with the rest of the players. If they're not interested, that's on them. It's the opposite that's folly - that there be a segment of the game so inaccessible that only the elite need apply themselves after weeks or even months of grinding. That's the fast track to getting the majority to quit. Meanwhile, many hardcore players, if they clear it quickly, means they're just going to gear from it more - not having to lose weekly lockouts each time because they failed a gearcheck. This means multiple jobs for them to gear, this means accessibility for them to help others if they so choose. This gives them more freedom to play more content or other games.

And ,no, this will not be the end of challenge content until 4.0. That's floors 100-200 of Palace of the Dead. Granted, that will be for bragging rights mainly, however, your challenge seekers will likely find it there.

[IllyriaKnotfred]

I like how you chime in Pasquale, but only when its someone who shares opinions close to yours :^).

@ Lunafreya

The community not being happy as appose to what exactly? Only 1-5% of the raiding player base clearing it? Hate to break it to you hunny- but the more people clearing the content, getting loot and having fun = happier people. The community will be PERFECTLY fine with it. Will some of the 1-5% that cleared Gordias and Midas? Maybe not, but guess what? They are the absolute smallest % of the player base.

[Pasquale]

I like how you chime in Pasquale, but only when its someone who shares opinions close to yours :^).

@ Lunafreya

The community not being happy as appose to what exactly? Only 1-5% of the raiding player base clearing it? Hate to break it to you hunny- but the more people clearing the content, getting loot and having fun = happier people. The community will be PERFECTLY fine with it. Will some of the 1-5% that cleared Gordias and Midas? Maybe not, but guess what? They are the absolute smallest % of the player base.

1) every1 putting these numbers forget something , that 5%is refered to the global population ( most of them are not raiders because they have different goal ) that 5% is not the numbers of the global raiders who cleared.2) Let's be honest now that u can see EVERYTHING from normal version people are still crying cuz the thing they really want is the MAX lv weapon so they can sayy woooo im op!

[Lunafreya]

And ,no, this will not be the end of challenge content until 4.0. That's floors 100-200 of Palace of the Dead. Granted, that will be for bragging rights mainly, however, your challenge seekers will likely find it there.

Palace is not savage content though?

[Eul]

Well I don't mind if the savage is easier to clear, because it will encourage casual-tier to do savage and that could increase the clear rate statistics

[SinisterJointss]

Palace is not savage content though?

Well, according to this thread. Alexandrian isnt savage either....

[Frederick22]

It seems that this comunity doesnt even know what it wants

Midas savage: "too dificult, gives something less hard"

Creator savage: "too blunt easy, this is not raid hardcore at all"