A12 savage World first 3 days after patch

[Pasquale]

How many of you using the new crafted iLvL250 gear?

Some with half set some with no pieces , our mt isnt even 240

[Hyrist]

Some with half set some with no pieces , our mt isnt even 240

Yet you're capped off.

For those that are doomsaying this, remember the opposite happened for Gordius and we've still not recovered the raid scene.

I'm not going to explain my perspective on this at length, like I usually would. This is mainly due to the fact that my feelings largely mirror that of Yoshi-p's. When you get bored, more on, come back. The thought that highest tier combat should be your sole provider of content ... is fairly indignant of the majority base.

It's not that this is the ONLY thing hardcore players have. The have the rest of the game, with the rest of the players. If they're not interested, that's on them. It's the opposite that's folly - that there be a segment of the game so inaccessible that only the elite need apply themselves after weeks or even months of grinding. That's the fast track to getting the majority to quit. Meanwhile, many hardcore players, if they clear it quickly, means they're just going to gear from it more - not having to lose weekly lockouts each time because they failed a gearcheck. This means multiple jobs for them to gear, this means accessibility for them to help others if they so choose. This gives them more freedom to play more content or other games.

And ,no, this will not be the end of challenge content until 4.0. That's floors 100-200 of Palace of the Dead. Granted, that will be for bragging rights mainly, however, your challenge seekers will likely find it there.

[Lunafreya]

And ,no, this will not be the end of challenge content until 4.0. That's floors 100-200 of Palace of the Dead. Granted, that will be for bragging rights mainly, however, your challenge seekers will likely find it there.

Palace is not savage content though?

[SinisterJointss]

Palace is not savage content though?

Well, according to this thread. Alexandrian isnt savage either....

[Hyrist]

Palace is not savage content though?

This would be incorrect.

The 'Story' portion ends at floor 100. So you may consider the following 100 floors to be 'Savage' content, as it will provide no new story.

Which is the same format as Savage, when you think about it. But, like Creator, it also features no true gearcheck and is mainly skill based - so the best players are likely to push through it quite well. Except we do know that Palace of the Dead has more random elements in it, so those complaining about 'too easy' will have some true difficulty and outright denials to contend with - answering a lot of requests we had earlier on content.

I quit the concept of being hardcore endgame long before FFXIV 1.0 came into play - so take what I say with a grain of salt. But from previous game experiences, the OP's views are not reflected by the majority of even his niche, let alone the wider player base at large.

While challenge is always appreciated, it is not when it comes at the cost of fair gameplay and the inclusions of literal time-gates. The fact that this match was primarily a skillcheck will have likely come at the relief of most endgame players, and an affirmation of their feelings that a lot of the problems suffering raiding in the last couple cycles was due to bad tuning.

Yes, this will bring questions as to the longevity of content, questions that should be asked - but not at the cost of reintroducing the same innate flaws that have plagued raiding for generations - where clearing has nothing to do with good skill and everything to do with not grinding content to the point of becoming stale.

Many will view this as a step in the right direction, however - let us be clear, this is only a step. There are many more challenges that yet need to be addressed to make the game truly healthy.