Rebalancing Suggestions for 4.0

[Jandor]

I like stuff like Divine Veil and Clemency. Yeah, they're very situational or of only minor benefit but even if they're not 100% crucial they at least add to the feel of the class.

Stuff like tempered will though... can't remember the last time I used that. The skill could be deleted, or its effects chucked on Sentinel. Nothing of value would be lost.

[Evangela]

Bard and Machinist should be nerfed, at least in PvP.

[TiaHariberux3]

I like stuff like Divine Veil and Clemency. Yeah, they're very situational or of only minor benefit but even if they're not 100% crucial they at least add to the feel of the class.

Stuff like tempered will though... can't remember the last time I used that. The skill could be deleted, or its effects chucked on Sentinel. Nothing of value would be lost.

Tempered Will is used in pvp so I dislike the idea to make combos easier or removing the skills that are not really used in PvE. Thats like saying remove sleep its useless while its a must have in pvp.

[Freyyy]

Tempered Will is used in pvp so I dislike the idea to make combos easier or removing the skills that are not really used in PvE. Thats like saying remove sleep its useless while its a must have in pvp.

An easy solution would be : making them PvP skills only, removing them from the PvE skills and replacing them by other more interesting skills there

[pizzatiem]

My BRD suggestion:
Merge all the buffs into one, all the songs into one, all the debuffs into one and scrap the Wanderer's Minuet.

That way people will be able to focus on the mechanics and won't feel like figting their own job.

I don't even know where to start. And I'm going to try and say this nicely.
Bard is one of the easiest classes to play. If you are having trouble playing your class while performing simple mechanics then you might need to study your class some more or play another game. There's no need in turning bard into a brain dead 3 button class.

[Freyyy]

I don't even know where to start. And I'm going to try and say this nicely.
Bard is one of the easiest classes to play. If you are having trouble playing your class while performing simple mechanics then you might need to study your class some more or play another game. There's no need in turning bard into a brain dead 3 button class.

Someone doesn't understand sarcasm

[StrejdaTom]

I don't even know where to start. And I'm going to try and say this nicely.
Bard is one of the easiest classes to play. If you are having trouble playing your class while performing simple mechanics then you might need to study your class some more or play another game. There's no need in turning bard into a brain dead 3 button class.

But I know where to start.
I was being sarcastic.

Someone doesn't understand sarcasm

Ooops, beat me to it. ^^

[TiaHariberux3]

An easy solution would be : making them PvP skills only, removing them from the PvE skills and replacing them by other more interesting skills there

"easy" you missing that pvp skills are different (they cant be spammed) and pvp skills cost attribute to upgrade those PvE skills dont have upgrades (wouldnt even makes sense cause would be op). Just remove the skills that you dont need is probably way easier.

[Brannigan]

There's no reason they couldn't make a PVP WS or spell (as opposed to ability).

[pizzatiem]

Someone doesn't understand sarcasm

I don't usually go on to the forums so I wouldn't have known better. I don't know this person at all I don't have any context on them to come to the conclusion that they were being sarcastic. I'm glad to hear it was sarcasm.