Thread: Rebalancing Suggestions for 4.0

Originally Posted by Mysteltain

True, but on controller it's been a nightmare to get everything for SCH and SMN to fit on three cross hotbars (two standard and an expanded hotbar). Admittedly, limiting myself to three per job is a personal preference, but those two jobs do have the largest amount of ability bloat if one wants to manually control their pets.

I run my SCH with 5 hotbars + extended, but when each fairy is out I'll use only 2 + extended, until I need to switch out or resummon, then i will use my back 5th hotbar, so I may have 5 hotbars, but I only actively access 2 + extended on each fairy. :O

Well here's a thought, people don't like casting times on Range classes aka BRD and MCH, so how do we fix that? You can't just give them back mobility without acknowledging that it would imbalance their ability to be threatened by AOE effects while effecting their DPS. It would just give them that edge to pretty much "ignore' mechanics because they have less to worry about.

So here's a thought that came to mind, what makes BRD and MCH unique? BRD is suppose to be Instrumental and MCH has Turrets along with their bullets to manipulate their procs while BRD uses DoT to manipulate it's procs.

So what if the stationary concept to those jobs was based on them using their special abilities, music and turrets.

When a brd plays a song they obtain a similar circular effect like BLM's Ecochain which they have to stay in to keep the effect of the song. When they move out they have x seconds to get back in before the song effect is both negated and reduced back to it's base amount.

For example, take Foe Requiem, let's just say for simplistic sake you activate the song, get the circular AOE and fight, it startsat a 5% boost with a max of 20% let's say, for every 10 seconds you stay on the circle it goes up 1% and you would have abilities that help you manipulate the range and even add new potencies to the song.

Say you could stack another song on top of your current song, that would mean it would be tougher to upkeep, something like 1 seconds lost everyone song, so when you have 2 songs up you star to lose 2 seconds per seond but you are free to remove them as you please.

The main gimmick behind BRD then coudl be a true BRD, stacking their songs to increase their dmg potency as well as buff/enfeeble the battlefield. Some songs could even be from comboing other songs that give you a short burst of perks like Straight Shot guaranteed crit for next 10 seconds or Venom Bite potency double for next 3 seconds. Make the job more reactive, keep the stationary aspect but instead make that stationary aspect a means to enhance the song aspect of the job to give the player a chance to do more with the job instead of being a brd that plays like BLM. The final balance I would add to that concept would be to allow an ability that let's the Brd move their "Tune" to another postion at the cost of half the potency and duration of the "Tune" for content in which you may move around a lot.

As for MCH, it would be similar but more focused on Turrets and maybe even going back to the concept SE originally wanted to do to have more attatchments for the job. The Rook could be a single target DPS with a focus on DoT additions while Bishop could be an AOE with focus on enfeebling. And the MCH would be able to take the turret up three stages with 2 options per stage to customize the Turret to their choosing based on the flow of combat.The two options per would basically be Rook= DPS or DOT and Bishop= AOE DPS or AOE Enfeeble

But in order to upkeep these Turrets the Machinst would need to setup the Turret and then place a Controller to stand by to help augment the Turret, the longer they stand by it the quicker they can upgrade the turret but if they move away from the controler the Turret begins to downgrade one stage at a time til it's back to 0.

Pretty much the idea is to just create a unique way to have those jobs need to stand still without it being based on their DPS abilities but rather their unique traits. If executed properly I think people would have a lot more fun with those jobs if they really are against the way they currently play.

For Dark Knight:

Give Plunge a new potency of 500, no, 600
Put Plunge on the GCD
Give Plunge a 50% chance of inflicting critical damage
A successful Plunge spreads a highly damaging DoT to surrounding enemies
Every Dark Knight ability now has a chance to end with an instant Plunge

That should do for now.

Scrap the CC system and just give the jobs skills with the effects of those old CC skills.

If you want a CC system in place then actually make an actual CC system where you spend points on skills you normally wouldn't have access to.

Also each player should have "their own" LB meter. It works in PvP it can work everywhere else as well.

so many of the jobs has just become overblown and complicated just for complication's sake. There are a few things they should just drop outright, they are buttons for the sake of being buttons. Cleric stance for instance (link the spells to mind), but the winner has to be ninja's wasp/viper pointlessness. You never want to turn it off, and if the only reason to swap is to use silence or stun. The 20% boost without the "button" and jugulate always stuns, mug steals a tiny HP amount. Just about all classes have similar messy/clunky "skills" and "stances" that should be innate with the job/class rather than adding to button/keybind bloat. Tank stances are also not useful, an emnity reduction skill if you happen to be off-tanking makes more sense.

They also need to give mch/brd back their mobility. HW wiped out a whole type of class/gameplay that needs to come back. Not all ranged need to be casters.

Sadly, they botched blm so badly I see no hope for it. Ley lines should just be a speed buff and not some ground thing, enochian needs a reset like kassastu.

My BLM suggestion:
I guess we'll get another 5 skills (62/64/66/68/70)
Keep eno and fire/ice-4, just add 2 high CD buffs and 3 skills we can use during GCD.

Thats it, i like BLM

BRD needs to have WM scrapped, AoEs reworked, and song added + tweaked.

As it is Wide Volley has no point, same potency as Quick Nock, but it cost more, for a suggestion I'd make Volley into a placed AoE like Flaming Arrow.

With my suggestion, WM could be removed by making Flaming Arrow work like Fist of Fire works for MNK.

For songs, I'd combine Ballad and Paeon into a single song, remove the enmity that Foes grants, add a debuff for nonmagic based class, and add the songs Jehantel has Voice of Valor, Voice of Fortitude, and Relentless March.