Thread: Rebalancing Suggestions for 4.0

Bard and Machinist should be nerfed, at least in PvP.

Originally Posted by StrejdaTom

My BRD suggestion:
Merge all the buffs into one, all the songs into one, all the debuffs into one and scrap the Wanderer's Minuet.

That way people will be able to focus on the mechanics and won't feel like figting their own job.

I don't even know where to start. And I'm going to try and say this nicely.
Bard is one of the easiest classes to play. If you are having trouble playing your class while performing simple mechanics then you might need to study your class some more or play another game. There's no need in turning bard into a brain dead 3 button class.

Originally Posted by pizzatiem

I don't even know where to start. And I'm going to try and say this nicely.
Bard is one of the easiest classes to play. If you are having trouble playing your class while performing simple mechanics then you might need to study your class some more or play another game. There's no need in turning bard into a brain dead 3 button class.

Someone doesn't understand sarcasm

Originally Posted by pizzatiem

I don't even know where to start. And I'm going to try and say this nicely.
Bard is one of the easiest classes to play. If you are having trouble playing your class while performing simple mechanics then you might need to study your class some more or play another game. There's no need in turning bard into a brain dead 3 button class.

But I know where to start.
I was being sarcastic.

Originally Posted by Freyyy

Someone doesn't understand sarcasm

Ooops, beat me to it. ^^

There's no reason they couldn't make a PVP WS or spell (as opposed to ability).

Originally Posted by Freyyy

Someone doesn't understand sarcasm

I don't usually go on to the forums so I wouldn't have known better. I don't know this person at all I don't have any context on them to come to the conclusion that they were being sarcastic. I'm glad to hear it was sarcasm.

Originally Posted by pizzatiem

I don't usually go on to the forums so I wouldn't have known better. I don't know this person at all I don't have any context on them to come to the conclusion that they were being sarcastic. I'm glad to hear it was sarcasm.

Well the level of stupidity in the post should've been enough for you to guess that it was sarcasm. I don't know this person at all either.

MCH and BRD are still mobile. All you need to do is flick the Minuet or the Gauss Barrel off when you're avoiding AoEs or repositioning if you want to still run and gun. If you aren't dodging, then there's no need to be mobile when you're DPSing. People really do complain too much about Wanderer's Minuet and Gauss Barrel giving cast times. WM and GB are 30 percent damage buffs that are constant and have very short recast times. You are being awarded an extra 30 percent in damage the entire run (minus what little auto-attack does) for just standing still, that's it. No waiting a minute for Ley Lines to be ready. No building up Greased Lightning for one Tornado Kick. No stacking Aethertrails to go into Dreadwyrm and then have to wait for Aetherflow to be off cooldown. Flick WM/GB, stand still and shoot. You guys got it easy.

honestly the only thing i think they really need to do is a really big skill pruning/merging
there's a lot of stuff that's just extra buttons and a lot of stuff that could be merged by converting into traits

one of the few things wildstar did super right was the limited action bars. I know ffxiv can't trim it down to 10 buttons but they could certainly knock off a lot

certainly a big chunk of the 1-2-3 combos could be turned into traits. There's literally no reason to ever go back a step since it costs more tp for less damage

as a fairly simple example paladin could have 6 buttons trimmed down to 3 doing that

[fast blade] [savage blade] [rage of halone] [riot blade] [goring blade] [royal authority]
could very easily be turned into
[fast blade -> savage blade -> rage of halone] [riot blade -> goring blade] [royal authority]
with no impact to anything but number of buttons required