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  1. #711
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugiwara View Post
    Since people don't understand how game balance works here you go:

    reasons why Abrupt leveling kills MMOs:

    1: Economy: This hugely affects the economy because PLing your classes will not require you to gear your self until late game. So what happens to all the gear LV1-40 in the markets? It sits right there. Crafters and people who farm mats for gils will definitely feel the backlash from this. If you have any sense of analytical and observation skills you can look into the future of what downward spiral the economy will go into if the PL scenario worsens.

    2: Server Character Level Distribution: New players will later find it hard to make and find group later down the line when people start to have multiple 50s and start the ever popular end game grind for gear. The content created by the devs for LV1-40 will be completely destroyed like it was in FFXI in Abyssea (might not be correct spelling) and will turn this game into another type of grindfest... the endgame grindfest.

    3. Promotion of the lack of In-Game knowledge: This sounds fun doesn't it?! Lets not have no clue what we are doing, let alone what types of abilities are viable in class builds and end-game setups. Why can't these things be taught through player experiences and strife? That is the true way to stimulate sense of accomplishment!

    4. Veteran Buzz-Kill = Loss players: Lets observe a real-life scenario. Let's say you worked intensely hard at a job and finally earned a promotion after 12 years of dedicated service. Then next week a new hire is suddenly jolted to your rank after 3 months. We saw this in FFXI and no one can't argue that the server population didn't suffer from it. Come on SE! don't you learn your lesson!? How would the current vets feel about this nonsense? Think before you post, please...
    Yaaay, more people in the thread who get it.
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  2. #712
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    It seems there are now two threads, an unofficial "vote" with "thumps-up" counts. I don't think this is a good way to select majority opinion, as not everyone comes to the forums. It's not even good as a statistical sample from the population because there's no controls. However, it's something that does get the attention of reps.

    Therefore, if you have not already hit that button, and you agree with the OP, please do so now. Thanks. =]
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  3. #713
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    We power levelled pretty much all day yesterday, taking it in turns to be the PL - Farmed up a TONNE of stuff for the LS, got everyones subs nice and comfortably levelled, and had a laugh doing it.

    I see no downside here.
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  4. #714
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahzl View Post
    We power levelled pretty much all day yesterday, taking it in turns to be the PL - Farmed up a TONNE of stuff for the LS, got everyones subs nice and comfortably levelled, and had a laugh doing it.

    I see no downside here.
    Everyone would get 50 and the game is not really p2p yet this could be a issue for SE down the road. Stop saying there no downside there is that why a lot of games have big time sink even wow is not easy to level like ffxiv.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenaku View Post
    Everyone would get 50 and the game is not really p2p yet this could be a issue for SE down the road. Stop saying there no downside there is that why a lot of games have big time sink even wow is not easy to level like ffxiv.

    Again, so? We had a lot of fun, enjoyed the game, and worked as a group towards a great goal.
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    Last edited by Vahzl; 10-10-2011 at 05:16 PM.

  6. #716
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahzl View Post
    Again, so?
    That the downside most people enjoy level up and find that the best part of the MMO and seeing how a lot agree with this. Top of that there a time sink so it give SE more time to make more stuff for us to do. Now if they make finding party,level up and grinding fun i don't see it being a issue but making it so you just powerlevel is the dumbest way to do this.

    Once again that the downside and it going to be a issue down the road.
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  7. #717
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahzl View Post
    Again, so?
    That's not a MMORPG to me. Let me bold, to me. Is this really the new generation of MMORPGs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Issac View Post
    That's not a MMORPG to me. Let me bold, to me. Is this really the new generation of MMORPGs?
    An MMO is not a korean grindfest, it is about working with friends to overcome goals and obstacles, the levelling is really kind of irrelevant as to how it is done. You can argue as much as you like but the basic point is this:

    - Those with friends and a good LS will always do better in these games
    - Those without are playing the wrong game
    - Stop worrying so much about what other people are doing and just get on with your life, if people want to do it, it is their choice and not yours.
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  9. #719
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahzl View Post
    An MMO is not a korean grindfest, it is about working with friends to overcome goals and obstacles, the levelling is really kind of irrelevant as to how it is done. You can argue as much as you like but the basic point is this:

    - Those with friends and a good LS will always do better in these games
    - Those without are playing the wrong game
    - Stop worrying so much about what other people are doing and just get on with your life, if people want to do it, it is their choice and not yours.
    When it breaks the game and it mess my gameplay then yes i should worry. If i can make a party to level from 10-50 due to everyone Powerleveling and no one really partying that a issue for me. What do you want me to do? get a friend to powerlevel me or play solo? this is a big issue and it going to be down the road trust me and there a lot of people who feel the same.

    You said your view i understand them but it seem you don't understand how this break the game for the big % of players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahzl View Post
    An MMO is not a korean grindfest, it is about working with friends to overcome goals and obstacles, the levelling is really kind of irrelevant as to how it is done. You can argue as much as you like but the basic point is this:

    - Those with friends and a good LS will always do better in these games
    - Those without are playing the wrong game
    - Stop worrying so much about what other people are doing and just get on with your life, if people want to do it, it is their choice and not yours.
    I'm not asking for a korean grindfest, I'm asking for something between these two extremes.
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