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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    As I say for every patch after playing myself, there's no way they tested it all, or else they probably would have found it and changed it before WE got to it. OR perhaps it was their intent on making PL'ing that easy, cept too many people complained about it.
    Well, we know they're going break-neck speed and probably cut every corner they can, however, I think in this case the devs simply failed (again) to anticipate player behaviour, perhaps putting too much faith in the assumption that the playerbase as a whole will approach the game the same way the devs themselves would. This despite the fact that they themselves are only a small sample size and represent only one cultural group out of many.

    This is why it's always important to align the players' interests with what's good for the game. The PL epidemic was a result of players chasing personal benefit at the cost of the integrity of the game as a whole. People were essentially shooting themselves in the foot, but the dev team was to blame for creating an environment that rewarded such actions, not the players themselves. Players seek to advance in the game the same way a current always takes the path of least resistance, yet some posters foolishly threw around accusations of hypocrisy when players who engaged in PL themselves questioned the legitimacy of the activity.
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    Last edited by Frein; 10-14-2011 at 08:23 AM.

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    Gnu Who
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    Even if outside-the-party PL can kill the mobs, at least the Lower Level player will have to work at it.

    Anyway, guess the dabate has passed for now. It's all speculation until we see the actual changes in action. Even the patch notes will probably not be enough to know how the revisions really play out in-game.

    Glad to see that it's being balanced at any rate.
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    This is because I see it as an act of volunteering, in which the power leveling players are willing to give up their time to help out their friends or family members.
    Yeah, if only it actually worked that way. Now it's more like you rub my back, I rub yours. 8 people taking turns PL'ing is not much of a "volunteering" as it is abusing the system for your own advantage, regardless of your role as a newb or a long-timer.

    Level Sync would still be better, but at least getting rid of this brainfart would be a step forward (after 10 steps back).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Yeah, if only it actually worked that way. Now it's more like you rub my back, I rub yours. 8 people taking turns PL'ing is not much of a "volunteering" as it is abusing the system for your own advantage, regardless of your role as a newb or a long-timer.

    Level Sync would still be better, but at least getting rid of this brainfart would be a step forward (after 10 steps back).
    Yes i agree but it seem yoshi-p have made his mind and think that powerlevel is ok. Even in WoW powerlevel is not that great and people still go out and do dungeon. So i don't see why yoshi-p is doing it what i'm guessing is to get new players to join the game.

    I hope Yoshi-p see that there other way to help out a friend without helping them level the easy way.
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    Theres still a work around to aoe plvl that should still be possible after 1.19a just not as easy or efficient as joining party, guess im gonna have to wait to find out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mindx3 View Post
    Theres still a work around to aoe plvl that should still be possible after 1.19a just not as easy or efficient as joining party, guess im gonna have to wait to find out.
    What kind of retarded speculation is that, saying there's a workaround to a patch in which we have no idea what exactly they're going to fix or how they're gonna fix it? All we know is that 2 systems, claiming and exp caps, are broken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Travesty View Post
    What kind of retarded speculation is that, saying there's a workaround to a patch in which we have no idea what exactly they're going to fix or how they're gonna fix it? All we know is that 2 systems, claiming and exp caps, are broken.
    Its not speculation its game mechanics that isnt being changed. Its called the hate system. Currently i can go around a single area and claim all mobs and aoe them down. Now my friend can claim the mobs while i cure him thus gaining hate untill all claimed mobs are on me so i can aoe them down. Again im gonna have to wait and see if its possible. This is what i had in mind when they 1st announced powerleveling.
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    Last edited by Mindx3; 10-12-2011 at 05:48 AM.

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    I love how based on a poorly translated single line of text, people are now thinking the world is saved, and exp parties are going to rule supreme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahzl View Post
    I love how based on a poorly translated single line of text, people are now thinking the world is saved, and exp parties are going to rule supreme.
    I love how you consider Bayohne's translations to be poor.
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    Last edited by Denmo; 10-12-2011 at 05:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denmo View Post
    I love how you consider Bayohne's translations to be poor.
    leave him he trolling every topic about this broken system.
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