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I was referring to this
Challenges can be all kinds of things - it can be about patience, it can be about perseverance, it can be about courage, it can be about intelligence, it can be about strength, it can be about finesse, it can be about speed, it can be about social interactions...or combinations of those things! Even as little as staying nice in the presence of a brat for prolonged periods of time can be a challenge if you don't have a natural propensity to such behaviour.
Long grinds are most definitely challenging in the patience department, while no video game is considerably challenging in the strength department. Puzzles can be challenging in the intellectual departments and stuff like Savage heavily tests your memorization skills. There are different kinds of challenges was the point I was making.
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