Quote Originally Posted by FoxyAreku View Post
So would people be okay with a tank who grabbed hate then did nothing but auto attack?

He has hate, he's doing his job right?

What about a DPS who just pressed buttons at random and never used buffs?

They're doing damage, so they're fine, definitely not bad or lazy at all.

Sure people are entitled to play however they want in solo play, but in groups, you should be expected to do the bare minimum. If you refuse, well then fine, but don't expect people to be nice to you about it. You will be called lazy and bad-because that's exactly what you are being.
My expectation of tank: Willingness to learn mechanics if they don't know them. Lead the charge. Control the pace. Keep ugly mobs off of me. Try your best to avoid avoidable damage. *commendation earned
My expectation of DPS: Willingness to learn mechanics if they don't know them. Respect the tank's pace. Kill ugly mobs trying to kill the tank. Try your best to avoid avoidable damage. *commendation earned

There is only one role in this game that I expect to DPS and it belongs to the DPS classes of this game. From my experience, it takes a whole lot more than tanks and healers not contributing to DPS to seriously make things bad news. And I invite you to look at those expectations I listed above. It really isn't difficult to differentiate between players who indeed are doing only what is required, and those that are REALLY screwing things up. I have always struggled with clears when players do not perform their PRIMARY role in a group. i.e healers who don't heal, tanks who don't tank, and DPS who put up lousy numbers.

I can't be bothered monitoring if a tank is using CD's and switching stances. You know what I do notice though? When a tank decides to feed a mountain buster to the entire group. If the DPS check is met, I don't care how a DPS member goes about doing it. What I do notice? When they eat AoE like they're free donuts, because nothing reduces their DPS output more than taking a dirt nap. I am too busy focusing on my own duties to worry about what everyone else doing. I notice bad playing, when it's truly bad, because it is truly making things more difficult, and forcing the other members of the group to work harder. This does not happen when a healer does not DPS. No one has to contribute more DPS because the healer isn't doing it.