DPSing as a healer

[FunkyBunch]

I'll just end it with this.

At the end of the day, regardless of it's optimality. Your and the in-game text's way of playing healer is optional. Key word. Optional. Nothing you can say or do will change that fact. The only people who need to "defend" their style play is you. So have fun with that.

See, there you go again. I'm not defending anything. I was trying to help, you came here to specifically tell someone to play badly.
Nowhere is it said anywhere that playing not terribly is optional. That's your opinion.
I know I can't convince you to play well, but I can point to other people that now even the Hall of the Novice (read basic tutorial) says differently than some random suboptimal player.

[Brinzy]

Your and the in-game text's way of playing healer is optional. Key word. Optional.

It's optional to play (in)efficiently in this game, no matter what role you are. Here is what I don't get about your argument:

By choosing to not DPS, you are choosing to have a smaller impact in the fight by simply pressing fewer buttons. I could see if not DPSing meant that you got to actually do something else far more often in the fight, but your team doesn't magically take more damage if you decide to not DPS. It literally adds nothing for you to do. I could optionally decide to not use certain abilities on a damage or tank class, and all it would do is cause me to do less damage or die easier. What's the point?

Why would you willingly choose to do nothing, beyond "because I can" (which dodges the question anyway)? We already know you don't care about the goodwill of the group if you choose to do nothing, so what does it do for you personally?

[Tsumes]

Why would you willingly choose to do nothing, beyond "because I can" (which dodges the question anyway)? We already know you don't care about the goodwill of the group if you choose to do nothing, so what does it do for you personally?

I believe I've stated this already but I'll mention it again. I'd prefer not to fight stick my controller if I don't have to. It's a difference between hitting 12 different buttons every half second or pressing a few every second. People seem to be obsessed with clearing everything as fast as humanly possible, then complaining about it afterwards because "there's nothing to do" I see level 60s complain about it every single day. I've never understood the idea, nor do I care for it. if you want to speed run your way through things. Just form your own group. It's not difficult. But trying to single handedly change the opinion of everyone around you is not going to make things better.

Sometimes you need to lay back, and enjoy what the game has to offer. Which is a lot more then a giant obstacle to overcome.

[Tsumes]

Hate to say it hon, but if you expect everyone else in the group to be pressing a button at least every 2.5s while you just sit there because "hey, at least you're doing the bare minimum that's being asked of you", then that makes you the elitist. Imagine playing in a group where all the SMN did was sic their egi on the enemy and /sit, if all the BLM did was scathe spam, and all the PLD did was flash. I'm sure you'd be pretty upset that that dungeon just took you an hour and a half, but you're seriously no better than them.

If you want to be just barely useful to your group, then why don't YOU find seven other people that can tolerate your "playstyle"? Why do you have to drag everyone down with you?

I honestly didn't even think this was a discussion until coming to these forums. Because not a single person has said what you people keep trying to force. I have had numerous 60s tell healers to stop DPSing though. Go figure. You must be a minority.

[FunkyBunch]

I have had numerous 60s tell healers to stop DPSing though. Go figure. You must be a minority.

We already know you exaggerate, why would anyone believe this?
You said you did Raids, you're not even 60.
You said you'd change retract your words if I could show you tangible numbers that showed DPS makes an impact, you decided to double down instead anyways after an actual logged example with numbers.
You called other people who were trying to help "elitist" and actively promoted poor play.
Anyways, please stop promoting bad play.

[Tsumes]

We already know you exaggerate, why would anyone believe this?
You said you did Raids, you're not even 60.
You said you'd change retract your words if I could show you tangible numbers that showed DPS makes an impact, you decided to double down instead anyways after an actual logged example with numbers.
You called other people who were trying to help "elitist" and actively promoted poor play.
Anyways, please stop promoting bad play.

There are more raids then just the level 60 ones. If it's under the raid category, it's a raid. Just because it's name doesn't have "savage" in it doesn't make it any less of a raid.
I don't care if you believe me. Has no effect on me one way or the other. That said, you seem to be dead set on completely ignoring my every attempt at saying you're correct. So I'm just going to assume you're a troll, add you to my ignore list and move on.

[Tsumes]

You don't get kicked because they'd rather put up with carrying you than waiting for a healer in progress to fill your votekicked spot. That attitude of "well I expect you all to carry me but I'll be as barely useful as I want because you NEED me" is an elitist attitude. You think you are above doing what is expected of everyone else.

People are told to stop dpsing because they're putting the expected minimum before the requirement. But I'll think of them much more highly than non-dpsing healers because at least they're trying.

EDIT: I looked at your character and you're... a SCH main?? Their entire gimmick is that they can put out a lot of DPS. You're wasting a huge chunk of your class's potential. Seriously that's worse than playing AST and not drawing cards.

Healers are hardly in short supply. 9/10 people I've seen with 1 level 60, also has at least one 60 healer. So that argument is moot. Nice try though.

[FunkyBunch]

There are more raids then just the level 60 ones. If it's under the raid category, it's a raid. Just because it's name doesn't have "savage" in it doesn't make it any less of a raid.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA,
Omg, yes it does lol.
ROFL. All the other content can be done by brain dead monkeys. LOL.

[FunkyBunch]

Healers are hardly in short supply. 9/10 people I've seen with 1 level 60, also has at least one 60 healer. So that argument is moot. Nice try though.

But no healer joins "in progress" duty finder. Just because people have Healers doesn't mean they queue Duty Finder on one.
After your 60 for a few months, try out for some end game stuff, then come back and let us know your progress.

[Tsumes]

lmfao
http://www.finalfantasyxiv.com/Eorze...N_Census_L.PNG

Nice statistic.

http://www.finalfantasyxiv.com/Eorze...N_Census_L.PNG
WHM alone is 11% of the job population. Hardly short supply.