I guess it's time

[Thayos]

I think it's fine to take aspects of FFXI and bring it into FFXIV. However, what some people are asking for is "Change the entire core of the game to be FFXI and keep some side aspects of FFXIV...and do it as quickly as possible". That's just not realistic.

Loved this entire post. Right on the money.

No doubt this game will continue to improve. It seems like so long ago, but let's not forget that 2.x was planned in record timing despite splitting dev cycles with 1.x, and 3.x was already underway as 2.x rolled out. We're at the point now where the dev team should be hitting its stride, and I think we're starting to see that (and will see even more evidence at Fan Fest).

HW was an improvement over ARR. The zones were better, the story was better, the 24-man raids were better and we got expansions to systems like housing and crafting. We're finally getting new content like Aquapolis and Deep Dungeons. SE is still playing with The Diadem, but they're obviously starting to branch out from dungeon grinds.

I'm excited for more improvements and for whatever 4.x will bring. And as we discuss the game's future, it's important that we don't delude ourselves and think the game will suddenly become something it's not.

[odintius]

.I'm excited for more improvements and for whatever 4.x will bring. And as we discuss the game's future, it's important that we don't delude ourselves and think the game will suddenly become something it's not.

Umm deep dungeon for new player perhaps current players can expect a glamour pieces to add their inventory perhaps. diedeim I expect the same but with more of clear path but meh the rewards can't be to good or end gamers will blow a fuse... Will see with time i think it be dried up content were eventually se will force us to go back to content for new relic items /shrug.

[Thayos]

Umm deep dungeon for new player perhaps current players can expect a glamour pieces to add their inventory perhaps.

They've already said we'll be able to work toward weapons with high iLevels through Deep Dungeons. That, alone, will keep that content popular.

As for Diadem, I don't want to speculate on what SE has planned. I'm eager to find out, though. Diadem seemed like it was envisioned as the FC-friendly battle content the game is currently lacking.

Hardcore endgamers will blow their fuses no matter what happens. SE shouldn't allow such a small portion of the playerbase to hold back development for everyone else.

[RobbieH]

They've already said we'll be able to work toward weapons with high iLevels through Deep Dungeons. That, alone, will keep that content popular.

As for Diadem, I don't want to speculate on what SE has planned. I'm eager to find out, though. Diadem seemed like it was envisioned as the FC-friendly battle content the game is currently lacking.

Hardcore endgamers will blow their fuses no matter what happens. SE shouldn't allow such a small portion of the playerbase to hold back development for everyone else.

Tell that to the miserable 200k player base this game has, when it used to have 800k.

It's only a small portion because they're not here anymore.

Honestly i don't care anymore, i've seen people take breaks since 2.1 and they didn't come back, i've seen people log on each new patch release only to not log again after one week when they realize everything is the same with a reskin.

So exciting. (^^,)

[odintius]

They've already said we'll be able to work toward weapons with high iLevels through Deep Dungeons. That, alone, will keep that content popular.

As for Diadem, I don't want to speculate on what SE has planned. I'm eager to find out, though. Diadem seemed like it was envisioned as the FC-friendly battle content the game is currently lacking.

Hardcore endgamers will blow their fuses no matter what happens. SE shouldn't allow such a small portion of the playerbase to hold back development for everyone else.

Perhaps but isn't it once all said and done 235ilvl to me if that the case glamour it is. I'll have to reread the interview but I'm sure it was mention 235 ilvl is the reward after all said and done but if not I'll happily correct myself.

[Velhart]

You mention core of XIV but you do realize that a majority of XIV's concepts are from other games, right?

That is not what I mean when I say that. The core system is it's battle system, world structure, content structure, and how that content is present to the intended audience. It isn't talking about what it grabbed from.

Seriously my name is right there click it click it and apparatly you haven't read all mine or others completely so the feeling mutual. For my part I'm not asking for extreme changes you make it sound like I am I want some slight changes.

I am not digging through your posts to find whatever is you are trying to make me look for. If you want to counter my arguments, do it right here and don't ask me to dig through something you responded to back in this 80+ pages of mess or other topics you are referring to.

Materia system needs improvement ability bonus/ trait materia some what like 1.23 maybe enhance start small at first when implemented. Rewards need to somehow be more worth it currently I personally feel blan the materia upgraded IMO would for me help in this matter some this I believe even if a small step need a revamp of the materia system in some shape though. Yes omg they will need to balance it out like every other game does still to this day, 4.0 would be perfect time for some slight changes to the formula.

Making the materia system better is not a bad idea(yes I do need to bold that for some). As long as it balances with other materia/gear. Can't say what you have in mind is a good idea or bad since you didn't elaborate beyond it.

Slight changes to the formula is absolutely welcomed. It is 100% understandable that some feel the formula is stale. Completely changing it instead of finding ways to make it better is what I am against.

[odintius]

I'm on a mobile device so can't do a wall of text to elaborate more without being able to edit properly with my PC but I'm under no illusion that all my ideas will 100% fix the problem i leave that to the developers.

[Beetle]

Alright its the end of my sub. See you guys.

I will come back when you guys fix the game.

[Thayos]

Perhaps but isn't it once all said and done 235ilvl to me if that the case glamour it is.

That iLevel of weapon would be an upgrade for many players on their main jobs. There are people in my content static who still only have i210 weapons. Currently, I only have the i230 relic, so that would be an upgrade for me, too.

I just got the lore weapon for my ninja, but don't yet have anything better than i210 for my bard. If DD were already in the game, then I'd have a weapon for that, too, giving me three different jobs I could use to tackle more difficult content.

So, now, another route to work toward an i230+ weapon is not all about glamor. This is a big deal for many who play the game; it could also be an alternative for people who don't have raid statics and don't want to go through the relic grind.

Look at the big picture -- this is a good thing.

[odintius]

Look at the big picture -- this is a good thing.

Oh no doubt I'm sure it a good thing for people, I'm just wondering how long and fast it will become irrelevant generally speaking it pretty quick a patch away perhaps time will tell don't get me wrong I sincerely hope it does succeed!