Forcing NA Duty Finder to be better, we need a grading system.

[Mattelot]

Oh, but Xlantaa, didn't you get the memo? If you don't play how the Elitists think you should, you shouldn't be playing.

[Obysuca]

If you don't play how the Elitists think you should, you shouldn't be playing.

But is it really elitism to ask a person to play at an average amount of skill level so you're not wiping forever on things that are easy? As was said before, just a simple glance at your skills tells you a decent/good rotation that can get you through pretty much everything out atm. Use skill B after skill A, do 100 more potency. As I said in another post, I had people i220+ in Bismarck Ex yesterday and we didn't have the dps to kill both snakes. Think about that. It's not really elitist to ask someone to actually put a little bit more effort into playing, rather than just auto attacking or hitting 111111111 (no mch jokes...).

Yes, there are elitists out there who kick for no good reason, but if someone's wearing i220+ gear in content under i210(or even under i200) and their dps is terrible, something has to be done. I'm not going to ask someone to put in 110% effort all the time, I'm just asking them to put in enough so they're not dead weight and dragging the party down. XIV is easy enough as it is, so much that a monkey could play it and do well, yet I see people at 60, in current content, who can't even do things they should have learned 30-40 levels ago. Tanks who don't know how to tank. Healers who can't keep people alive. Dps who stand in everything, don't move for positionals so they do more damage(things like expert don't matter too much for that, but I do it anyways, so I'm doing my part the best I can, all the time), Mch who don't use turrets or GB (yeah, I still see that...), brd who don't use WM or songs etc

Which sounds more fun to you? Getting into a party full of i220-i240 geared people, but you're the only one who's actually doing the basic rotation to do average damage, so the party can't do dps checks or rage timers so you wipe for an hour+ then the party disbands, or getting into a party of i220-i240 geared people and everyone is at least doing the basic rotation so you can complete dps checks and rage timers and rarely, if at all, wipe?

People these days forget that a mmo is about cooperation and teamwork. If you're dead weight and not contributing at all, then yeah, theres every right to kick if you won't take the advice and improve some(again, nothing against new people, thats fine, it's just the bads and terribles who refuse to put in effort). Who else here remembers older mmos, specifically pre-WoW, when people actually gave it their all when in a party so they could actually complete content? I sure do. I also remember that when you told someone how they can improve since they're not doing well, they didn't whine and cry, call people elitists and report people, they took that advice and improved and it made the community and playerbase better overall.

For pretty much everything else (even Amon and the Dullahan) alliance placement is pretty arbitrary for mechanics.

Oh I know, I was just saying how it bugs me lol

Whats destroying this game are people who can't even do basic things and then whine, why should the game be catered to them? But I blame the devs more than the players since they give in instead of saying no this is how the is game played.

^ This. Who else here remembers when Steps of faith was fun before the bads/terribles cried to the heavens for nerfs because they couldn't handle something that's not a good ol' fashion beat off?
They're also the reason why we don't have a true pet job. Straight from SE themselves (old quote from back in 2.0) that the reason we don't have one is because "new players would find it difficult". Ok? They either don't have to play it or can learn how to play it, why dumb it down so much?