Forcing NA Duty Finder to be better, we need a grading system.

[Kallera]

I get that some people are saying that they will not expect perfect play. I'm sure the soldiery bonus didn't seem that bad when it was suggested either.

The fact is that people will engage in segragation and witch hunts if given the tools to do it.

I don't like this idea, as well meaning as it sounds, I feel it would tell the wrong people and mindsets that they are not welcome.

[Deceptistar]

i think there needs to be more an assessment on toxic attitudes of players rather than low gameplay.
a bad environment only secludes pple more and doesnt really invest the the players that need coaching.

[Deceptistar]

If at all i think there should be an attitude grading system on how good/bad you act.
If your a demeaning ahole then yeah get graded
If you need to learn still and your giving the most retarded shitty attitudes then get graded.
Alls fair, grading going both ways.

The more your grade sucks, the more you get pushed under the barrel for queue times.
Less people to deal with you, no matter how good or bad your skills are.

[Erudito]

For the love of Hydealyn do not make or add any sort anything that can stroke peoples ego in a game like this. It will turn toxic really fast and ruin the gaming experience for many.

[bass9020]

For the love of Hydealyn do not make or add any sort anything that can stroke peoples ego in a game like this. It will turn toxic really fast and ruin the gaming experience for many.

Its already ruined why not help it?

[Brill_]

So many things wrong with this.

1. Tank turns a tank buster into the melee. Melee die, and do less damage as result. Melee get a bad grade because of it.

2. Subpar healers can't keep the group alive, dps die due to AOe's and have lower damage as a result. Again, bad grade received.

3. Primal fight. 4 people dead. The remaining 4 are able to clear, but take more damage as result of the fight lasting longer. Again, receive a bad grade.

4. Poor DPS can't meet the DPS check. Healers and tanks die as result, get a bad grade for damage taken or not clearing.

So many fights these days can be lost by one person screwing up. Therefore, there are things people would be graded on that are beyond their control. Getting a bad grade because someone else messes up is a terrible system.

[Jetstream_Fox]

So many fights these days can be lost by one person screwing up. Therefore, there are things people would be graded on that are beyond their control. Getting a bad grade because someone else messes up is a terrible system.

Exactly, a lot of these fights aren't designed to ensure perfect runs, just look at Hullbreaker HM, you have a tether on the second boss that deals damage and Mistbeard has a room wide attack that hurts everyone, based off those two mechanics people are already looking at a negative grade based off getting hurt. This idea doesn't work with the nature of FF14, this suggestion actually works against how this game is played.

[mp-please]

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For a system like this to work, the algorithm would have to check what players are reacting for each move the target does.

1. Tank turns a tank buster into the melee. Melee die, and do less damage as result. Melee get a bad grade because of it.

Monster cast x skill
Expected result : only tank gets hit (cleave)
damage mitigation : +points
no party members get hit : +points
If 1-2 party members (non MT) get hit, - points to those players
If 3+ get hit, -points to the tank.

2. Subpar healers can't keep the group alive, dps die due to AOe's and have lower damage as a result. Again, bad grade received.

Monster cast y skill
Aoe damage, is there damage mitigation? +pts for whoever cast the mitigation skill
Heal and overheal is calculated on the next 5 seconds to provide a score.

3. Primal fight. 4 people dead. The remaining 4 are able to clear, but take more damage as result of the fight lasting longer. Again, receive a bad grade.

If death by unavoidable attack, healers get penalized, if death is by a avoidable attack, the players get penalized.

4. Poor DPS can't meet the DPS check. Healers and tanks die as result, get a bad grade for damage taken or not clearing.

It's a wipe, why would it matter? As long dps can see they were the cause of the wipe, the system is doing it's job.

[Gallus]

Maybe not a grading system, but kinda what we have at the end of a PVP match with a few inclusions? DPS done, healing done (not overhealing taken into account), maybe they could add damage mitigated (shields) and aggro generated by the tank and damage.
This way people could also give commendations based on objective data rather than "I liked this guy's glamour, gonna comm them".

[WinterLuna]

For a system like this to work, the algorithm would have to check what players are reacting for each move the target does.

Do you realise how much work this would entail? This means SE having to take into account every move of every boss and mob in every dungeon, trial and raid. The system would not only have to provide numbers for each player but then determine whether these numbers were acceptable in relation to each and every single mechanic that was executed.

Not to mention that parties react to mechanics differently and have their own strategies and neither has to be incorrect. Even if SE took upon this absolutely massive task, it still would never be 100% accurate.