PLD highest DPS tank single target

[Donjo]

Sure thing. Thats why my PLD has more defensive CD's with 57 than my WAR and my DRK with 60.

Hmmm... I'll count them real quick. Cross Class Cooldowns will be bolded.

PLD: Rampart, Convalescence, Awareness, Sentinel, Foresight, Sheltron, Bulwark

WAR: Foresight, Awareness, Convalescense, Thrill of Battle, Vengeance, Raw Intuition, Inner Beast

DRK: Shadowskin, Foresight, Awareness, Convalescense, Shadow Wall, Dark Dance, Dark Mind

Looks like each job has access to seven. Eight if you wish to count Bloodbath. Figure we probably could if we're counting Convalescence.

[Alistaire]

Hmmm... I'll count them real quick. Cross Class Cooldowns will be bolded.

PLD: Rampart, Convalescence, Awareness, Sentinel, Foresight, Sheltron, Bulwark

WAR: Foresight, Awareness, Convalescense, Thrill of Battle, Vengeance, Raw Intuition, Inner Beast

DRK: Shadowskin, Foresight, Awareness, Convalescense, Shadow Wall, Dark Dance, Dark Mind

Looks like each job has access to seven. Eight if you wish to count Bloodbath. Figure we probably could if we're counting Convalescence.

And each has a different value based on potency, recast, and to a more vague extent, dependability of use when needed.

When you add them all up (not including any vague values) WAR > PLD. Didn't see DRK in those calculations so idk where they factor in.

1. Never stated Flash killed anything nor anything about flash getting a damage buff, no idea where you got that from.

He's referring to my suggestion that the easy fix is to add damage to flash, thinking it's not good because FoF wouldn't affect it. (Which isn't a good argument; either they'd change FoF to include it or even if they didn't the change would still be a much-needed boost to PLD)

[Donjo]

And each has a different value based on potency, recast, and to a more vague extent, dependability of use when needed.

When you add them all up (not including any vague values) WAR > PLD. Didn't see DRK in those calculations so idk where they factor in.

Woah, meow. I was just counting the number of cooldowns! But yeah, WAR wins. Too bad everybody wants them on the boss' ass :P

[Malicewolf]

Woah, meow. I was just counting the number of cooldowns! But yeah, WAR wins. Too bad everybody wants them on the boss' ass :P

But all dem deepss! (and let's not forget to mention that a WAR's hp completely overshadows any other tank with defiance on)

[Ragology]

But all dem deepss! (and let's not forget to mention that a WAR's hp completely overshadows any other tank with defiance on)

All 3 tanks die in the same number of hits while in tank stance though.

[Ilan]

Hmmm... I'll count them real quick. Cross Class Cooldowns will be bolded.

PLD: Rampart, Convalescence, Awareness, Sentinel, Foresight, Sheltron, Bulwark

WAR: Foresight, Awareness, Convalescense, Thrill of Battle, Vengeance, Raw Intuition, Inner Beast

DRK: Shadowskin, Foresight, Awareness, Convalescense, Shadow Wall, Dark Dance, Dark Mind

Looks like each job has access to seven. Eight if you wish to count Bloodbath. Figure we probably could if we're counting Convalescence.

I see, you don't count Divine Veil in it even if it is a defensive cooldown (if you don't know how to use it right learn it) and Cover isn't a defensive cooldown (even if it is not for your defense) either not to mention that Clemency is a defensiv skill too if you know how to use it right and in combination with Divine Veil.

If you ignore 3 useful skills for you and your party you are totaly right and you obviously don't know how to play your paladin.

[Seku]

I see, you don't count Divine Veil in it even if it is a defensive cooldown (if you don't know how to use it right learn it) and Cover isn't a defensive cooldown (even if it is not for your defense) either not to mention that Clemency is a defensiv skill too if you know how to use it right and in combination with Divine Veil.

If you ignore 3 useful skills for you and your party you are totaly right and you obviously don't know how to play your paladin.

Because their not defensive cool downs and are the utility of the PLD. Also Clemency is trash until it doesn't kill the combo rotation you're in and shield blocks prevent casting interruption or the spell is made into an instant cast. Until then you're more than likely over healing in any decent group and killing your DPS, or taking the chance you're slightly off on your timing, eat a tank buster to the face get interrupted and yet again, killed your DPS.

[Kitfox]

I see, you don't count Divine Veil in it even if it is a defensive cooldown (if you don't know how to use it right learn it) and Cover isn't a defensive cooldown (even if it is not for your defense)...

DV does nothing for PLD's own mitigation. It's raid utility, like Path, or Reprisal although generally worse.

Cover does nothing for mitigation besides redirect. It's at best a hate control tool, not mitigation.

[Warkupo]

DV does nothing for PLD's own mitigation. It's raid utility, like Path, or Reprisal although generally worse.

Cover does nothing for mitigation besides redirect. It's at best a hate control tool, not mitigation.

In a fight where the PLD isn't expecting to tank swap you can buff up, cover the tank, and mitigate damage that he wouldn't normally be mitigating. Or if he's about to die and your healers are struggling/bad you can cover and buy extra time with your shiny body. PLD tends to excel in situations where poop is in the fan or your group just isnt' very coherent or practiced.

[Fernosaur]

If you ignore 3 useful skills for you and your party you are totaly right and you obviously don't know how to play your paladin.

...By that measure, WAR has Storm's Eye, and DRK has Delirium and Reprisal... those serve a similar role to Divine Veil (as does Rage of Halone), except they actually also apply to the tanks that use them, unlike Divine Veil. And they can have a 100% uptime if needed. Delirium is also a lot better than RoH in the party mitigation department because most of the raid-wide attacks are based on INT.

Paladin does have Stoneskin, though. I don't know if you'd count that into your defensive CDs, because as someone said earlier, casting makes you unable to block or parry, and then you can get interrupted, and then it sucks. Though then again, if you're interrupted by a TB while casting Stoneskin you were already too late in casting stoneskin for it to matter, so~