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    Seku's Avatar
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    Seku Halvone
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    Why should the class with 541658146141 def cd's deal a high amount of dps on top of that? Not to mention that the PLD is bei far the easiest tank to play.
    Because all tanks have the same amount of defensive cool downs.
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Seku View Post
    Because all tanks have the same amount of defensive cool downs.
    It's not about the ammount. Paladin's CDs are just pop&done. WAR has to manage stacks (= reach V stacks to use Inner Beast for mitigation), has to tankswap often (to utilize Bloodbath best), etc...
    WAR has five "Pop&done" CDs: Foresight, Vengeance, Raw Intuition, Covaleszens, Equilibrium.
    Even Holmgang needs a bit of planning and only mitigates "overkill" (everything until 1 HP is just normal damage, which needs to be healed).

    Paladin got Sheltron, Rampart, Sentinel, Hallowed, Bullwark, Covaleszens, Foresight, Clemency.... and even Flash with the -toHit%, which is pretty nice in dungeons (big pulls). Everything just "Need it? Click it!".
    It's just simpler* than stancedancing and utilizing self-heals, which the WAR has to do a lot.


    *don't mistake that as 'easier'.
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 06-28-2016 at 09:27 PM.

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    Seku Halvone
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Neophyte View Post
    It's not about the ammount. Paladin's CDs are just pop&done. WAR has to manage stacks (= reach V stacks to use Inner Beast for mitigation), has to tankswap often (to utilize Bloodbath best), etc...
    WAR has five "Pop&done" CDs: Foresight, Vengeance, Raw Intuition, Covaleszens, Equilibrium.
    Even Holmgang needs a bit of planning and only mitigates "overkill" (everything until 1 HP is just normal damage, which needs to be healed).

    Paladin got Sheltron, Rampart, Sentinel, Hallowed, Bullwark, Covaleszens, Foresight, Clemency.... and even Flash with the -toHit%, which is pretty nice in dungeons (big pulls). Everything just "Need it? Click it!".
    It's just simpler* than stancedancing and utilizing self-heals, which the WAR has to do a lot.


    *don't mistake that as 'easier'.
    1. You missed Thrill.
    2. To the person I was responding to (not you), yes it does matter about the amount due to the ignorance spewed in the post I responded to.
    3. Managing stacks isn't hard, nor is planning them out and generally speaking all tanks have to plan their CD's out on any fight that actually matters, this is not something that only WAR does, and is actually probably harder on PLD in some cases (non physical tank busters) due to the long cool downs.
    4. I don't consider any of those popped and done as the weaker Cool downs should be paired up with another, this includes skills on PLD's list as well. I pray to god you're not just using Bulwark or foresight alone. Also Clemency is pretty trash still, quite literately the only tool to make you miss a GCD and start your combo over if you're in the middle of one. GG.
    5. No one cares about blind in big pulls when you can push out damage and make it to where healing is basically not needed on you for the duration of Berserk. If you're looking to blind trash, play Drk.
    6. Not quite too sure why you're tank swapping for blood bath, but k.
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    Last edited by Seku; 06-29-2016 at 01:27 AM.

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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Seku View Post
    Because all tanks have the same amount of defensive cool downs.
    Sure thing. Thats why my PLD has more defensive CD's with 57 than my WAR and my DRK with 60.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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