Possible level/story jumps....really?

[Zadocfish]

You know how stupid players sometimes act with mechanics at end-game? Imagine about five times as many people doing those missions with that level of competence or below. Most players that don't get how stuff works just get bored and quit. Give them an option to skip all the tedium, which doubles as learning time/proving ground? You'll see the end-game stuff CHOKED with people who have no idea what to do, even worse than right now.

Besides, a lot of the job stuff you get from job stories. It wouldn't make sense to have them in a vacuum. More importantly, you'd miss out on the world travelling that'd lead you to the major sidequests, like the "armor dyeing" one or the "chocobo get" one!

[Genaxx]

I don't understand the argument of people wanting to play with their frends, you can play with friends no matter what level. Surely playing with them would be doing all of thr MSQ dungeons and trials with them.

Can't see why they want to skip straight to end game either when its so empty.

And if anyone says because of raids then have fun raiding with someone who knows nothing about the game.

It wouldn't be so bad for people with alts though, only if it was locked to people who had already levelled. However SE could just remove the fluff from the MSQ.

[DamianFatale]

I don't think that we should, but if it MUST be done, don't let people that already have a class at lvl 60 get access to it. Honestly, I still think its too soon. It should be out in expansion four, or five, and not now.

[Remus]

I don't think that we should, but if it MUST be done, don't let people that already have a class at lvl 60 get access to it. Honestly, I still think its too soon. It should be out in expansion four, or five, and not now.

I don't know. If you add all the quests together from ARR,2.1,2.2,2.3,2.4,2.5,2.55,HW,3.1,3.2,3.3,3.4,3.5,3.55(?) That is quite a bit of content before the next expansion. Imagine when they release the next expansion without some form of skipping or speed up then they will have 4.1,4.2,4.3,4.4,4.5 Eventually it becomes:

A Realm Reborn (182 quests)
2.1 (16 quests)
2.2(18 quests)
2.3(19 quests)
2.4(19 quests)
2.5(8 quests)
2.55(16 quests)
Heavensward (94 quests)
3.1(9 quests)
3.2(11 quests)
3.3(6 quests)
3.4(n/a)
3.5(n/a)
3.55(?)(n/a)
4th Expansion(n/a)
4.1(n/a)
4.2(n/a)
4.3(n/a)
4.4(n/a)
4.5(n/a)

Edit: So i went out of my way to add up all the quests in each patch cycle and if your a new player trying to reach 3.3 right now you would need about 398 Main story quests.

Each of these patches have numerous quests in them. As a current player its not so bad because you up to date with it. If i was a new player and there was no form of way to speed up this process before the next expansion I will just say forget that and lose all interest.

[Anzaman]

Each of these patches have numerous quests in them. As a current player its not so bad because you up to date with it. If i was a new player and there was no form of way to speed up this process before the next expansion I will just say forget that and lose all interest.

It's not that bad - I started the game during last patch of ARR and got through whole leveling process and all MSQ in two weeks.

And heck, all that content was new to me. It was like living a dream, nice amount of fresh content. -- While now I'm just twiddling my fingers, waiting for them to add more story.

[NaesakiAshwell]

It's not that bad - I started the game during last patch of ARR and got through whole leveling process and all MSQ in two weeks.

And heck, all that content was new to me. It was like living a dream, nice amount of fresh content. -- While now I'm just twiddling my fingers, waiting for them to add more story.

Sadly 2 weeks is too much for some people, they want to be at the end game now not later.

[Remus]

It's not that bad - I started the game during last patch of ARR and got through whole leveling process and all MSQ in two weeks.

And heck, all that content was new to me. It was like living a dream, nice amount of fresh content. -- While now I'm just twiddling my fingers, waiting for them to add more story.

I just did a bit of maths of how much quests you would need to do if you only did MSQ on my post and I don't think most people would want to do that.

[DevilsDontFly]

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I don't think it takes that long to complete MSQ before HW, to be honest. I tried to level an alt once, that is already deleted, and it took me like two weeks to get everything done up to Before the Fall patch. I was leveling a DPS, and since it was an alt I didn't put that much time on it because I have a main character that I play the most.

That being said, it's a short amount of time, and it was even before the whole Hall of the Novice thing. If I was a new player I would be 50 on my first month of sub, maybe even 60, and that's really fast. Ok, it was only one job, but still. The mainstory of FFXIV is really short if you focus on progressing it.

Also I think this sort of potion would make pre-HW content even more forgotten in the past, and roulettes would be even more of a "get your daily tomes already" instead of a "get tomes and maybe fill spots and help new players". It also goes against the whole point of the mentor system, since it would make all sprouts go straight up to Heavensward.

[Zaraaraz]

I'm sorta neutral to this but slightly sided on the Yes.

Reason being is I tried to get someone into this game but lost them to the 2.x slog.
The base 2.0 AAR 0-50 MSQ? fine, that wasnt an issue, but it was all the post 50 stuff from the 2.x updates that made them drop.

This. I've lost several new introducees this way. The story just kept going and going, made them running up and down and left and right and across Eorzea, they still weren't anywhere near the Heavensward content, and on voice chat they kept hearing us having fun with the high end content.

[DevilsDontFly]

Sadly 2 weeks is too much for some people, they want to be at the end game now not later.

That is what I don't understand. It's not like you'll be able to do end game content even with a lvl60 jump potion. If anything it would make the gaming experience of a new player far worse due to the lack of experience and knowing how the job works, or even how the game itself works. I terrifies me to think about doing, let's say, Dusk Vigil with someone that started to play three hours ago and just bought a "reach HW as fast as possible" potion at the cash shop. That person would probably get frustrated and be booted out of the duty, or in the worst case scenario you, or me, or anyone else could even end up on a party with 3 people like that. They don't say 1 to 50 is the Tutorial for nothing.