Possible level/story jumps....really?

[Snugglebutt]

I really hope they do not add such a feature for multiple reasons from potentially adding P2W in a game that SE said they never wanted P2W to be a part of, will be detrimental to the social aspect of this game where by most people make friends along the way during that leveling process while the new ones who use such a feature are unlikely to do so plus it will make the problem of people not knowing how to play currently a million times worse, if think the complaining about bad players is bad now...after such a feature the current complaints on that issue will be just a drop in the ocean compared to after.

If they do introduce it then it should be unusable past level 30 due to the amount of skills being dumped on people and additional mechanics which start being introduced around that level beyond the most basic of tank and spank which is what pre-30 is generally like. SE please do not add such a feature to this game, listen to the overwhelmingly huge proportion of negative comments about this issue here compared to the few people in favor. This is not something a large amount of your players here are saying they want in this game.

It will damage the game just to please a few people who are too lazy to put in the effort to level up like everyone else has had to do, everyone else who learned how to play through that leveling process and made new friends along the way through those growing pains, trials and tribulations. Sure there may be some players who still can't play well or adequately at 60 even after leveling up as normal but it would be a million times worse if added such a P2W style level skip potion. Instead of adding such a horrible thing like a level skip potion, just trim the quests in such a way that people still need to do them but doing them takes less time...for example if a quest asked you to fetch 20 of something, lower it to 5 of the item or move the NPC's closer together for that quest etc.

[TankHunter678]

Level boosts is where WoW fucked up.

My buddy got me a Warlords of Draenor pre-order, it came with a free level 90 character boost.

Thanks to that character boost I did not see any of the previous content from before WoD. I got in, leveled up 10 levels, got to play with a bunch of people who like me did not know how the fuck to play our class. By the time I got to level 100 I was bored of the game.

It was stupidly easy, simple, because they had to make it that way for all the boosted 90s who were fresh new players like me who did not have 90 levels to learn how our class played.

My friend tried to show me the older content, but another friend would get impatient about leveling and have us just go through dungeons. Dungeons I had no real idea why we were in there in the first place. Going to lower level story content would of been pointless at that point, so I STILL did not get to see the "world" of warcraft.

I really do not want to see that happen to this wonderful game.

What they need to do is trim down some of the more pointless busy body quests that do not advance the story much.

[RiceisNice]

Level boosts is where WoW fucked up.

My buddy got me a Warlords of Draenor pre-order, it came with a free level 90 character boost.

Thanks to that character boost I did not see any of the previous content from before WoD. I got in, leveled up 10 levels, got to play with a bunch of people who like me did not know how the fuck to play our class. By the time I got to level 100 I was bored of the game.

To be fair, you didn't have to use the level boost. The option for you to use it is available to jump into expansion content with your friend or to play the game from scratch. Not to mention the classes in WoW are so incredibly streamlined they literally hand you the basic fundamentals that go well beyond the tool tips (there's an entire section in your ability tab that gives you a psuedo-flowchart), there's no possible way that you wouldn't understand the core fundamentals of your class unless you really werent paying attention (or just didn't care)

[TankHunter678]

-snip-

To be fair every time I would make a character to try to see what another class is like I would see "WOULD YOU LIKE TO USE YOUR CHARACTER BOOST?" repeated every single time.

And the low level experience was boring as fuck with having to run long distances over empty space to turn in a single quest and having only a few buttons to press when I actually did fight.

So I did what any new player would do. I used the 90 boost. Which also gave me a free mount I could use, got me right into the game where I get my skills thrown at me over a short series of quests. I got my entire kit dumped on me over like, 4 quests. with no pseudo flowchart and nothing but tooltips to go off of. I had an ability book list of all my abilities, I had talents I could select, and that was it.

So I wound up just hitting buttons, and hit the buttons that light up. Carried me through dungeons (when bear tanks were not soloing the dungeon for me), carried me through the open world.

It just so happens I had gone marksman hunter, cause what I had heard about the game (about it being difficult and all that) was out of date by a good 10 years and wanted to play something that at least could kite. Turns out that was unnecessary.

[Jadub2k]

(Continued from page 14)


Me personally, I like knowing my character is equally important (if not more) as every other character in the game. But I guess that's just me in this feeling. And while I don't mind at all or am I against a story skip option, your time (and possibly enjoyment) in this game will be much shorter then everyone elses. So why not just try (at the very least) to get what you pay for ya'know, but its whatever at this point I guess. I apologize for the long winded post but really needed to get that out lol

[Anzaman]

I could somewhat understand the idea of boosting alt-jobs to 50 (with 60 as cap) - since leveling up them is quite boring; spam dungeons, leves and/or fates all the way to level-cap *yawn*, but it's still something for player to do. One member in my Free Company kept himself very busy with leveling every single job to cap (60) and after that his activity started to drop lower and lower.

[Zadocfish]

Yeah, I'm not behind enough already. I need new players getting into content I haven't unlocked yet before I get anywhere close. 9_9

[Noshpan]

There are people whom have played this game since 2.0's launch who have no clue what the fuck is going on with the story. But these are the types of people who don't care if a game has a story behind it.

I remember when Heavensward just launched, the forums were filled with threads complaining about it being mandatory that they complete the 2.0 main scenario right up to Steps of Faith. Now that the MSQ for the Dragonsong War has ended, we know that the horizon for the next expansion isn't quite so distant anymore.

Personally I am against being able to purchase character boosts. Even in WoW (I've only had 2 and those are the ones that came with purchasing Warlords of Draenor and pre-purchasing Legion). WoW* can get away with this easier than XIV, since the game isn't as story-heavy. You can play WoW without ever stepping foot into a dungeon or raid, XIV is considerably different.

For the time being, instead of offering an item that boosts character levels, remove the requirement of having completed the 2.0 MSQ up to Steps of Faith. The moment that they reach level 50, let them start progressing through Heavensward content. And if they want to go back and finish the rest of the ARR MSQ, then they can do so at their leisure. And once the new expansion releases, they should remove the requirement of having to complete Final Steps of Faith in order to do the new expansions content once they reach level 60 (at least at some point). I think that's what quite a few folks want in the first place.

*I did use the level 90 boost that came with purchasing Warlords of Draenor on my Orc Mage that was level 64 at the time. Even though I was not familiar with a Mage at end-game level (at the time, I've only leveled Druid, Hunters and Paladins to max level) I did look up a guide on how my Mage's rotation should go in both single-target and AoE combat. But, again, I'm experienced enough with playing MMOs in general (having 16 years of experience doing so) to know where to look to do research on the roles that I play.

[Snugglebutt]

For the time being, instead of offering an item that boosts character levels, remove the requirement of having completed the 2.0 MSQ up to Steps of Faith. The moment that they reach level 50, let them start progressing through Heavensward content.

No.

That would be giving RMT 100% easy access to ruin and infest HW content just like they do with ARR content. The story gating which incorporates multiple hard level 50 dungeons and trials has stopped RMT getting it's claws into HW content. You will not find a RMT bot army anywhere in HW zones, you will not find an RMT city /say or /shout chat spammer in Ishgard either. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar unless they can here and now provide proof that RMT has managed to get past that gating which to-date no-one has. Proof that is not just a singular/individual legitimate player who decided to bot after manually working through that gating.

[Noshpan]

No.

That would be giving RMT 100% easy access to ruin and infest HW content just like they do with ARR content. The story gating which incorporates multiple hard level 50 dungeons and trials has stopped RMT getting it's claws into HW content. You will not find a RMT bot army anywhere in HW zones, you will not find an RMT city /say or /shout chat spammer in Ishgard either. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar unless they can here and now provide proof that RMT has managed to get past that gating which to-date no-one has. Proof that is not just a singular/individual legitimate player who decided to bot after manually working through that gating.

Except that RMT already does. You would have to be delusional to think that Steps of Faith has kept RMT from Heavensward content.

Then ask SE to improve this situation: locking a zone behind a story just to help with the botting situation is a very poor excuse.

RMT and botting is akin to fighting computer viruses. It's more reactionary than pre-cautionary when it comes to new ones. And you can never 100% get rid of them. For the moment, I'd settle for an easier, less time consuming means to report RMT & bots.