Possible level/story jumps....really?

[ADVSS]

Corrected that for you.

And since we're talking about MMORPGs, the biggest factor of the game is always gameplay, whether if it's story based or not. I mean there is a reason why FFXIV 1.0 failed, and I'm pretty sure it's the gameplay.

So yeah, while I don't agree with the potion, making the story skipable won't change anything: you still follow your story, while we play the game how we want, and everyone is happy. No need for a potion.

I never suggested forcing them through story directly, but if its skippable, they could you know, make some new starter quests that are more relevant. not shocked by the mmo "fix" but current story feels alot like solo play anyway. So make new levelling story that can be more group involved(ie not dropping party for instances etc) msq current formula isnt very "mmo" which is why i left it out. lol not shocked by the fix though saw that coming a mile away. thanks for the chuckle

[ADVSS]

Why play a multiplayer game if you cannot directly join the others in the relevant content?

It's an MMO-RPG after all, which means you'll have to consider both sides. Which is why I really don't care much if the story becomes skip-able, I just feel the leveling should remain for now, since you get your abilities at a rather decent pace to slowly learn your class as you go.

i agree i dont care too much about the skipping but levelling is so fast and easy in this game, that someone shouldnt be dissuaded because theyre not 60 2 hours into the game. The biggest criticism with msq is how un group oriented it is, and i dont know if story is to be skipped maybe access to story primals/raids from 2.x/3.x being locked behind optional completion idk where youd draw the line honestly, but i feel like they should leave a little something for people who have been playing and supporting the game since launch or even heavensward, maybe having those badass ponies and glamours and birds being locked behind story would be enough idk

[Lithe]

I thought Cash Shop was going to be glamour based only. Is this game going to turn into pay2win as well as sub based?

[ADVSS]

I thought Cash Shop was going to be glamour based only. Is this game going to turn into pay2win as well as sub based?

there was a nice thread about how the chinese cash shop already does this stuff, given the reality that the playerbase pays by the hour, etc i can somewhat understand this, its a different demographic. But what was shared about those level jump skip to heavensward tomes purchasable by the cash shop just makes me sick. I am actually very dissuaded because the easiest way to do this for the expac is just copy paste whats already there from their cash shop. To me, i find this disgusting, but since its already there, it probably will be easy for them to laze out and do the same come 4.0.
edit: I would allow skip 2-3.x put the proper job npcs at the level 30, and allow pilot. introductory quests, starting at level 15, with a 60 variant. Allow partied instances at level sync to the the lowest level pt member but allow completion for either version, by the time "endgame" hits new players should hit max level alongside veterans, thats how i see them doing story but thats my opinion on the matter. Story needs more group involvement, and less hindrance and exclusion.

[GaMEChld]

Since everyone keeps citing the whole "get to endgame to play with friends" as a completely logical reason for this stupid idea, could someone please point out the current feature that is preventing them from running content with the new player, their friend? I wasn't aware that so many player's level sync option was broken. Y'all need to file a support ticket. Seriously, there is so much to do in the game that is more exciting than a two dungeon roulette. If that's the amazing endgame experience you're rushing your buddy to while ignoring the 52 other dungeons and trials in the game relevant to THEM I'd have to check your motivations.

Nail on the head. You bring a new friend into the game? Awesome! Now show him the ropes and play with him! Don't whine about his journey to get to your current level of content. Selfish.

[bass9020]

Another thing to note is they just upped the free trial to lvl 30. So people can now play the game for free for 30 levels! Thats halfway to 60 already I mean that in itself should be enough for people. I know that there is other restrictions with the free trial but still come on.

I also love the fact that they have talked to people familiar with WoW...its like the core FF fans are nothing to SE anymore its pretty disheartening.

[Dualblade]

Another thing to note is they just upped the free trial to lvl 30. So people can now play the game for free for 30 levels! Thats halfway to 60 already I mean that in itself should be enough for people. I know that there is other restrictions with the free trial but still come on.

I also love the fact that they have talked to people familiar with WoW...its like the core FF fans are nothing to SE anymore its pretty disheartening.

To be fair, it may level wise be halfway, but exp wise its at best 1/4th.

[Nestama]

its like the core FF fans are nothing to SE anymore its pretty disheartening.

Considering most FF games are single-player, with the exception of this game and FFXI, I think asking people familiar with WoW or other MMO's would be/is the better route to take.

[bass9020]

Considering most FF games are single-player, with the exception of this game and FFXI, I think asking people familiar with WoW or other MMO's would be/is the better route to take.

Clearly since the level potion/story skip was brought up its a great route to take.

[TankHunter678]

Considering most FF games are single-player, with the exception of this game and FFXI, I think asking people familiar with WoW or other MMO's would be/is the better route to take.

Based on all the other MMOs I have played...

A level jump potion is an incredibly stupid idea that causes the upper levels where mechanics are supposed to get more difficult to become overpopulated by people who would of been better suited going through the early stuff and learning how to play the game.

But because the developers now have to cater to a high level range of people who do not have the experience nor knowledge required this results in high end content having to be heavily simplified because clear rates drop... dramatically. This results in the strange case of mid-level range dungeons being more complex and difficult then high end raids. Simply because those dungeons were never updated, because no one plays that content anymore unless forced to.

Level jumping events and purchasable level jump potions, while great for altaholics who have already put enough time into the game to level most everything to max, are detrimental to the game. Both for players and for developers.